Is the Penn State story making anyone else feel horrible?

Anonymous
Sandusky started as a coach at PSU in 1968. McQuery's father was good friends with Sandusky. Sandusky would have had contact with McQuery when McQuery was a little boy. Do you really think this started in 1998?
Anonymous
This story is bringing back all of my disgust for the Catholic Church leaders that supported and abetted child rape within their church duties. The big difference is that I think these Penn State guys will face justice, while many individual criminals in the church got away with their crimes. Justice is very important here if Penn State wants to maintain it's standing. I am an ex-Catholic partly because justice was never satisfactory in the Church controversy. To this day, I just can't imagine how people can be so evil to others. It really breaks my heart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sandusky started as a coach at PSU in 1968. McQuery's father was good friends with Sandusky. Sandusky would have had contact with McQuery when McQuery was a little boy. Do you really think this started in 1998?


So you think Sandusky molested every child he ever knew? Obviously he didn't start abusing in children in 1998. But I think it's a pretty big stretch to assume that since Sandusky knew McQuery when he was a child, that McQuery must have been a victim. Going after his friends' kids was not exactly his M.O. Why do you think he went after troubled kids? They were much more vulnerable.
Anonymous
McQueary will not be there on Saturday.
Anonymous
How is it illegal to watch child porn but legal to witness child rape and fail to call 911?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in higher ed and I'd thought that I'd seen the good and bad of university administration and disciplinary processes. I guess it's just crazy to me that an adult would see what he perceived to be a sexual assault by an adult on a child in a public place and he wouldn't think yell for help and then call 911.

I want to keep my kid safe, but this whole situation has me thinking about how much I also want to train her to be a person who does the right thing as an adult.


It's called ethics training that most organization have. It may help people to identify and report those incidents. Which they clearly did not do. However, the perpetrators will always be out there. It is up to us to keep our children safe..

BTW, some of these boys were in some sort of program for at-risk-children. That just makes me so mad. I am glad they fired Paterno.



So are you saying that you aren't planning to talk to your children about how to behave ethically and morally in difficult situations? You'll just wait until they complete that online ethics module at their first job? Your take away from this situation is that your only responsibility in this society is to make sure that YOUR children aren't molested?
Anonymous
The behavior of Penn State students supporting Paterno is sickening. Reporters were stoned, vans overturned and fires set and NO ONE was arrested. The whole college football culture is sickening. DD was planning to apply to PSU next year, but there is no way now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I want to keep my kid safe, but this whole situation has me thinking about how much I also want to train her to be a person who does the right thing as an adult.


Hindsight is a beautiful thing, but yes, we were just talking about this last night. We do need to raise our kids to step up. Of course, there is a fine line between stepping-up and putting yourselves in harm's way. Very tricky.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This story is bringing back all of my disgust for the Catholic Church leaders that supported and abetted child rape within their church duties. The big difference is that I think these Penn State guys will face justice, while many individual criminals in the church got away with their crimes. Justice is very important here if Penn State wants to maintain it's standing. I am an ex-Catholic partly because justice was never satisfactory in the Church controversy. To this day, I just can't imagine how people can be so evil to others. It really breaks my heart.


it is human nature to not believe this stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I want to keep my kid safe, but this whole situation has me thinking about how much I also want to train her to be a person who does the right thing as an adult.


Hindsight is a beautiful thing, but yes, we were just talking about this last night. We do need to raise our kids to step up. Of course, there is a fine line between stepping-up and putting yourselves in harm's way. Very tricky.
A wonderful sentiment. And we need to keep reminding ourselves that it is important to stop, think, and then do something. I think it's a rare person who never hesitates and always speaks up so we have to be aware that it's easy to let the opportunity go by in a moment of weakness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How is it illegal to watch child porn but legal to witness child rape and fail to call 911?


ouch!

good point!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The behavior of Penn State students supporting Paterno is sickening. Reporters were stoned, vans overturned and fires set and NO ONE was arrested. The whole college football culture is sickening. DD was planning to apply to PSU next year, but there is no way now.


nah - too narrrow, PP

It's the sports culture in the US that's sickening!

I heard one reporter make reference to "sports jingoism." I totally get it now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I want to keep my kid safe, but this whole situation has me thinking about how much I also want to train her to be a person who does the right thing as an adult.


Hindsight is a beautiful thing, but yes, we were just talking about this last night. We do need to raise our kids to step up. Of course, there is a fine line between stepping-up and putting yourselves in harm's way. Very tricky.
A wonderful sentiment. And we need to keep reminding ourselves that it is important to stop, think, and then do something. I think it's a rare person who never hesitates and always speaks up so we have to be aware that it's easy to let the opportunity go by in a moment of weakness.


As a kid, I saw my mom take a big personal risk to report her boss, who was harassing on of my mom's assistants. And my father was beaten badly while trying to help another man who was being attacked by a group of kids who were high on PCP (that's a '70s story for you). Neither of them every expressed any regret, or even any thought that they could have chosen to act differently.

Who knows how I would act in those situations-I don't think you can know until you are tested, but I hope I would be a good example for my own daughter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

As a kid, I saw my mom take a big personal risk to report her boss, who was harassing on of my mom's assistants. And my father was beaten badly while trying to help another man who was being attacked by a group of kids who were high on PCP (that's a '70s story for you). Neither of them every expressed any regret, or even any thought that they could have chosen to act differently.

Who knows how I would act in those situations-I don't think you can know until you are tested, but I hope I would be a good example for my own daughter.


I'm going to guess that based on what your parent's shared with you about their experiences, that you were raised by people with a sense of justice and integrity. I have no doubt that, put to the test, you would step up. And, whether you realize it or not, you are teaching your daughter to do the same thing. Thanks for sharing your story.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The behavior of Penn State students supporting Paterno is sickening. Reporters were stoned, vans overturned and fires set and NO ONE was arrested. The whole college football culture is sickening. DD was planning to apply to PSU next year, but there is no way now.


nah - too narrrow, PP

It's the sports culture in the US that's sickening!
I heard one reporter make reference to "sports jingoism." I totally get it now.


You need to get out more. Sports culture throughout the world is crazy. It's not just a U.S. thing.
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