Republicans Applauding Executions

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:
Reasonable people can disagree about the death penalty. However, I don't think reasonable people applaud someone for having presided over more than 200 executions. I also think reasonable people show concern about the possible execution of an innocent man and interference into the investigation of that execution.

Honestly Jeff, you feel this way because you do not believe that people who believe the death penalty as an appropriate penalty in some circumstances are reasonable when they support someone who shares their convictions. It is possible an innocent man can be killed - it is crazy to argue otherwise. We have a system that allows a multitude of appeals - there is NO perfect system. The survivors are entitled to some justice IMO, and you are welcome to disagree.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:
Reasonable people can disagree about the death penalty. However, I don't think reasonable people applaud someone for having presided over more than 200 executions. I also think reasonable people show concern about the possible execution of an innocent man and interference into the investigation of that execution.

Honestly Jeff, you feel this way because you do not believe that people who believe the death penalty as an appropriate penalty in some circumstances are reasonable when they support someone who shares their convictions. It is possible an innocent man can be killed - it is crazy to argue otherwise. We have a system that allows a multitude of appeals - there is NO perfect system. The survivors are entitled to some justice IMO, and you are welcome to disagree.

You are still missing the point. The analogy was made above regarding abortion. You might oppose abortion, but recognize that it is legal and supported by a great many people That does not mean that you would expect abortion supporters to applaud at the mention of the fact that x number of abortions took place while a candidate was governor. Again, watch the clip embedded in the first post of this thread. The audience applauded at the mere mention that over 200 people were executed. They were not supporting the death penalty. They were not even support Perry exactly. They were simply applauding that 200 people had died.

I find it particularly strange that abortion opponents who talk endlessly about the taking of innocent life -- when there is at least some question whether a life is being taken -- so easily write off the wrongful execution of innocent people. The Willingham case is so egregious that I can only assume you know nothing about it.

[Anonymous]

"Are all Republicans this blood thirsty, or was this simply an unusual crowd?"

Didn't the original post start out inflammatory?

Such hypocrisy. Typical.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:"Are all Republicans this blood thirsty, or was this simply an unusual crowd?"

Didn't the original post start out inflammatory?

Such hypocrisy. Typical.

What's inflammatory about that? How would you describe people who applaud at the mention of people being killed if not blood thirsty? Since it was a Republican event, it is safe to assume the audience was almost all Republican. Just as many right wingers seem to think that reality has a liberal bias, I guess reality is also inflammatory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 14:45. I don't think I am special. I think I sometimes make myself sick reading stories about what other parents of crime victims have gone through, not to mention the victims themselves. (William Petit's experience for example.) I do agree that a miserable life sentence, hopefully with lots of repeated, harsh prison justice thrown in, is a fair punishment. But executions are legal and I am for them. Can't we respectully agree to disagree? Jeff asked why people in the audiuence applauded. And my sincere answer is that at least for me, I think of people like William Petit and his wife and daughters, and it just comes down to I don't have a problem with executions for guilty and not guilty people.

There. Fixed that for you.

Do you want other posters changing what you've written? Whether or not I agree with someone, I think what you did was wrong.

I'm sorry, but I had no idea you couldn't realize it was a joking/sarcastic post pointing the out logical flaw in the persons self-righteous stance regarding capital punishment. Maybe you should head back to Faux News and live happy in the silly echo chamber over there. I hear the tin foil hats help prevent evolution, so it's all good.

(Yes, that is me being inflammatory and drawing conclusions that are over the top. Welcome to the internet.)

[Anonymous]

such babies on the Internet! Hilarious! This thread is HILARIOUS!

[Anonymous]

I'm full of crazy ideas. Like Federal Income taxes should be indexed by zip code so people in more expensive areas pay less. Hey, the gas companies can do it...

I've wondered if there can be "degrees of certainty" that can come into the penalty phase of a trial. Just as there are degrees of crime. We'd have to prove someone committed the crime beyond a SHADOW of a doubt to merit execution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Golf clap here- I am all for the executions, sure there are mistakes but that happens in all sorts of things. doctors botch a surgery, a bus driver crashes, etc, all could be prevented but things happen.

is that what you think the election should be based on?

"things happen?" ... the state wrongfully killing people?

You are one m'fin' callous asshole.

[Anonymous]

^^^^
not only that but if the quoted bloodthirsty poster can't tell the difference between a negligent act and a deliberately sanctioned murder by the state, he/she is not only a callous asshole but also dumb as a post (though that might be offensive to posts).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm full of crazy ideas. Like Federal Income taxes should be indexed by zip code so people in more expensive areas pay less. Hey, the gas companies can do it...

I've wondered if there can be "degrees of certainty" that can come into the penalty phase of a trial. Just as there are degrees of crime. We'd have to prove someone committed the crime beyond a SHADOW of a doubt to merit execution.

Great, so we create a tax incentive for people to move to more expensive areas, making them even more expensive. Sounds like government rewarding bad choices to me.

[Anonymous]

Since 1973, 133 death row inmates have been exonerated with DNA evidence. I wonder how many innocent people have been sent to their death?
http://www.exonerate.org/about-2/facts/

[jsteele]

So, in tonight's debate, the Tea Party audience cheered the idea of allowing a comatose 30-year-old die because he lacked health insurance. That was even too much for Ron Paul. The Republicans sure do like the idea of death.

I predict that the next debate will feature the audience doing the wave after a candidate proposes nuking Iran off the face of the earth.

[Anonymous]

even a right wing maniac like me, really hates the death penalty. i think is alot better than abortion (which i feel is equally awful as slavery), but as long as there is a guarantee of no release from prison it should be abolished. on a side note it should be noted that many prisoners recieve the death penalty from their fellow prison-mates so maybe there is sme merit to the state performing it in a more humane manner.

[TheManWithAUsername]

Anonymous wrote:on a side note it should be noted that many prisoners recieve the death penalty from their fellow prison-mates...

...or a sentence to life as a rape slave - which could also be a death sentence, of course, from all the AIDS in prison.

It's one of the reasons I'm not that passionate against the death penalty; I consider life without parole incomprehensibly bad. Anyone headed for it would contemplate suicide, especially after you'd been raped several times.

[TheManWithAUsername]

jsteele wrote:So, in tonight's debate, the Tea Party audience cheered the idea of allowing a comatose 30-year-old die because he lacked health insurance. That was even too much for Ron Paul. The Republicans sure do like the idea of death.

I predict that the next debate will feature the audience doing the wave after a candidate proposes nuking Iran off the face of the earth.

That wouldn't be newsworthy - TP types have always cheered the slaughter of fureners.

I tried to find a clip of the moment...about how far in was it?