Non-religous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't have to convert to attend. There are lots of attenders who are not actually members. (of quaker meetings)

Well, of course not - you don't have to convert to attend any kind of religious services.

My point is, if you do want to actually become a Quaker, it is not as simple as e.g. becoming a UU, or joining a Christian congregation.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but Easter is about candy and the bunny. Look up the origins....God of Fertility anyone? Has nothing to do with Jesus. (the origin of the holiday)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in a similar place. I was raised Catholic, DH was raised Conservative Christian. We are both pretty liberal in regards to religious and social stances and have tried a few churches. Most recently we have went to a nondenominational Christian church. It is okay, I'm not in love.

I don't want to go to a church in which the kids are shipped off to a Sunday School room - which I have found most churches tend to do. I don't want to be judged or so engulfed by the presence that I run up to the alter with hands in the air. I hope no one takes offense if you are comfortable in those situations. My husband doesn't want to have more than one money donation basket shoved in his face, nor does he want the preacher to mention money. Not that we are cheap, but really, we give what we can, when we can.

I took the quiz and my top three were -
1) Liberal Christian Protestants
2) Orthodox Quaker
3. Liberal Quaker

Catholic came in at #8. Though I still have some deeply Catholism believes (Virgin Mary, Saints, etc), I also have a lot of issues with the church.

Honestly I'm not all the sure of what the Quaker religion is about. I naively thought Quakers were simily the pilgrims (coming to escape religious persecution). I have no idea about anything after that.

O.M.G.

Did you study American History in school?

Did you go to college?

If the answers are yes, that says horrible things about the state of American education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in a similar place. I was raised Catholic, DH was raised Conservative Christian. We are both pretty liberal in regards to religious and social stances and have tried a few churches. Most recently we have went to a nondenominational Christian church. It is okay, I'm not in love.

I don't want to go to a church in which the kids are shipped off to a Sunday School room - which I have found most churches tend to do. I don't want to be judged or so engulfed by the presence that I run up to the alter with hands in the air. I hope no one takes offense if you are comfortable in those situations. My husband doesn't want to have more than one money donation basket shoved in his face, nor does he want the preacher to mention money. Not that we are cheap, but really, we give what we can, when we can.

I took the quiz and my top three were -
1) Liberal Christian Protestants
2) Orthodox Quaker
3. Liberal Quaker

Catholic came in at #8. Though I still have some deeply Catholism believes (Virgin Mary, Saints, etc), I also have a lot of issues with the church.

Honestly I'm not all the sure of what the Quaker religion is about. I naively thought Quakers were simily the pilgrims (coming to escape religious persecution). I have no idea about anything after that.

O.M.G.

Did you study American History in school?

Did you go to college?

If the answers are yes, that says horrible things about the state of American education.

Yes.
Yes - two majors actually. Neither in history or religion.

May be I used to know the specifics? It's been almost two decades since I was in high school. I did go to a private, Catholic school (not on the East Coast) and Catholism was pretty pounded into my head.

But thanks for your useful, snarky response. I was truly curious and have spent at least 30 minutes, if not more reading up on the basis of the quaker beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Granted I live my life on my own terms, but I would participate in both cultures. I'm a Christian, but I reflect and practice my own day of atonement on Yom Kippur.

Both you and your husband should be allowed to maintain your connections with your cultural backgrounds and your children should be allowed to enjoy the positive aspects of both religions.

It’s your lives; live it the way you want and don’t let others (including me) tell you how it should be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in a similar place. I was raised Catholic, DH was raised Conservative Christian. We are both pretty liberal in regards to religious and social stances and have tried a few churches. Most recently we have went to a nondenominational Christian church. It is okay, I'm not in love.

I don't want to go to a church in which the kids are shipped off to a Sunday School room - which I have found most churches tend to do. I don't want to be judged or so engulfed by the presence that I run up to the alter with hands in the air. I hope no one takes offense if you are comfortable in those situations. My husband doesn't want to have more than one money donation basket shoved in his face, nor does he want the preacher to mention money. Not that we are cheap, but really, we give what we can, when we can.

I took the quiz and my top three were -
1) Liberal Christian Protestants
2) Orthodox Quaker
3. Liberal Quaker

Catholic came in at #8. Though I still have some deeply Catholism believes (Virgin Mary, Saints, etc), I also have a lot of issues with the church.

Honestly I'm not all the sure of what the Quaker religion is about. I naively thought Quakers were simily the pilgrims (coming to escape religious persecution). I have no idea about anything after that.

O.M.G.

Did you study American History in school?

Did you go to college?

If the answers are yes, that says horrible things about the state of American education.

Yes.
Yes - two majors actually. Neither in history or religion.

May be I used to know the specifics? It's been almost two decades since I was in high school. I did go to a private, Catholic school (not on the East Coast) and Catholism was pretty pounded into my head.

But thanks for your useful, snarky response. I was truly curious and have spent at least 30 minutes, if not more reading up on the basis of the quaker beliefs.

Not snarky. I am truly stunned.

I didn't major in history or religion, either. And I'm 50yo. But I have known since probably 6th grade what religion the Pilgrims/Puritans were, and what they were fleeing.

I don't see what the East Coast has to do with it. This is basic American history we are talking about. Very basic.

Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in a similar place. I was raised Catholic, DH was raised Conservative Christian. We are both pretty liberal in regards to religious and social stances and have tried a few churches. Most recently we have went to a nondenominational Christian church. It is okay, I'm not in love.

I don't want to go to a church in which the kids are shipped off to a Sunday School room - which I have found most churches tend to do. I don't want to be judged or so engulfed by the presence that I run up to the alter with hands in the air. I hope no one takes offense if you are comfortable in those situations. My husband doesn't want to have more than one money donation basket shoved in his face, nor does he want the preacher to mention money. Not that we are cheap, but really, we give what we can, when we can.

I took the quiz and my top three were -
1) Liberal Christian Protestants
2) Orthodox Quaker
3. Liberal Quaker

Catholic came in at #8. Though I still have some deeply Catholism believes (Virgin Mary, Saints, etc), I also have a lot of issues with the church.

Honestly I'm not all the sure of what the Quaker religion is about. I naively thought Quakers were simily the pilgrims (coming to escape religious persecution). I have no idea about anything after that.

O.M.G.

Did you study American History in school?

Did you go to college?

If the answers are yes, that says horrible things about the state of American education.

Yes.
Yes - two majors actually. Neither in history or religion.

May be I used to know the specifics? It's been almost two decades since I was in high school. I did go to a private, Catholic school (not on the East Coast) and Catholism was pretty pounded into my head.

But thanks for your useful, snarky response. I was truly curious and have spent at least 30 minutes, if not more reading up on the basis of the quaker beliefs.

Not snarky. I am truly stunned.

I didn't major in history or religion, either. And I'm 50yo. But I have known since probably 6th grade what religion the Pilgrims/Puritans were, and what they were fleeing.

I don't see what the East Coast has to do with it. This is basic American history we are talking about. Very basic.

Wow.

Snarky poster, I think maybe you are a little too sure of yourself. I think the PP is using the term "pilgrims" as in those emigrating for religios reasons, inc. escaping persecution. Some Quakers did so. "The outbreak of persecution of Friends back in England again led seventeen Quakers to purchase East Jersey to serve as a refuge where Friends could practice their faith without interference. Robert Barclay, the brilliant young Scottish Quaker theologian, served as Governor of the colony for a time." http://thorn.pair.com/earlyq.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:31 here again. Thanks PP. I looked up some information on Quakers. I found it very interesting. I align with most of their beliefs, except we are a military family, so I'm not sure if that alone would keep me out of the Quaker realm?

I don't think that alone keeps you from Quaker - as I think there are Quaker ministers in the military, but I could be very wrong about that.

[Anonymous]

Snarky poster - the East Coast thing does have quite a bit to do with it - meaning if you lived in the South, you probably didn't actually study it for long in school, and you knew no one who was Quaker because there aren't actually any Quaker meetings in most places. I didn't really know about Quakers until I moved East and friends went to Quaker schools. I naively thought they were similar to Shakers - I found out I was wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:31 here again. Thanks PP. I looked up some information on Quakers. I found it very interesting. I align with most of their beliefs, except we are a military family, so I'm not sure if that alone would keep me out of the Quaker realm?

I don't think that alone keeps you from Quaker - as I think there are Quaker ministers in the military, but I could be very wrong about that.

Quakers are passivists. That's one of the things I admire about them the most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:31 here again. Thanks PP. I looked up some information on Quakers. I found it very interesting. I align with most of their beliefs, except we are a military family, so I'm not sure if that alone would keep me out of the Quaker realm?

I don't think that alone keeps you from Quaker - as I think there are Quaker ministers in the military, but I could be very wrong about that.

Quakers are passivists. That's one of the things I admire about them the most.

Actually they are pacifists.

[Anonymous]

Yes.
Yes - two majors actually. Neither in history or religion.

May be I used to know the specifics? It's been almost two decades since I was in high school. I did go to a private, Catholic school (not on the East Coast) and Catholism was pretty pounded into my head.

But thanks for your useful, snarky response. I was truly curious and have spent at least 30 minutes, if not more reading up on the basis of the quaker beliefs.

Not snarky. I am truly stunned.

I didn't major in history or religion, either. And I'm 50yo. But I have known since probably 6th grade what religion the Pilgrims/Puritans were, and what they were fleeing.

I don't see what the East Coast has to do with it. This is basic American history we are talking about. Very basic.

Wow.

It is my experience that many Catholics know little to nothing about the history of Protestantism or what it's all about today, nor do they care.

Signed, a Methodist who knows many ignorant Catholics

[Anonymous]

DH and I were both Catholic, but have been going to a Methodist Church for the last 2 years. For me, there were just too many things that the Catholic church supported/believed that I do not. Methodist church is very friendly, includes children in the service, and I feel like I get way more out of it than I ever did in a Catholic mass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:31 here again. Thanks PP. I looked up some information on Quakers. I found it very interesting. I align with most of their beliefs, except we are a military family, so I'm not sure if that alone would keep me out of the Quaker realm?

I don't think that alone keeps you from Quaker - as I think there are Quaker ministers in the military, but I could be very wrong about that.

Quakers are passivists. That's one of the things I admire about them the most.

Actually they are pacifists.

Ha ha! Sorry, I am a terrible speller and had to rely on Google. Must have been some sychology page that it hit. I mean, psychology. ; )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't have to convert to attend. There are lots of attenders who are not actually members. (of quaker meetings)

Well, of course not - you don't have to convert to attend any kind of religious services.

My point is, if you do want to actually become a Quaker, it is not as simple as e.g. becoming a UU, or joining a Christian congregation.

Well, not all churches do open communion. You can't waltz into a Catholic church and go up to the communion line. But in other churches, you can.