A number of my friends and acquaintances seem to be developing semi severe mental health issues as we age. Is it peri

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None of my perimenopausal friends are developing these issues. Some are more forgetful than usual. It might be you, OP.

+1. Just hot flashes and some insomnia in my circle. You have weird friends and acquaintances, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree with your take and don’t think OP is well-intentioned at all. Come on, making fun of an anorexic for bone breaks?

That said, I’ve noticed some really v unpleasant changes in some of my post-meno acquaintances. I don’t know whether they are using HRT or if they ever have. One just got fired in humiliating fashion from a volunteer job, a cruel experience that at the same time is not surprising; she cannot let other people just be, and is always verbally accosting them with accusations about being wrong about this or that situation. I’ve witnessed in these cases (not everyone) a total inability to be emotionally balanced and introspective, to hold the tongue for a strategically opportune time. It scares the S out of me, that despite my seeing this and being on appropriate hrt for my symptoms under a doctors care, that ill wake up totally estranged from myself and then estrange myself further by how I act.

Ffs. Menopause doesn’t give people personality disorders and HRT is not a mental health medication. At best (and this is significant) it can help you sleep better and that will help your mental health. But it is not going to cure a personality disorder.

If you have issues with your personality please see a therapist.

[Anonymous]

too much self centeredness on women not enought humblness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:too much self centeredness on women not enought humblness

Put down the bottle and go back to bed.

[Anonymous]

Estrogen’s decline actually physically caused less dopamine in the brain. So, most doctors know that menopause will unmask underlying disorders related to an imbalance of dopamine. So yes, if you are untreated, it will be worse.

[Anonymous]

I get overwhelmed more easily and have less tolerance about doing things I don't want to do. I feel a need to be selfish. My kids are in college but I have no clue how people with younger kids in peri do it. Or maybe they are not exhausted yet because they have not raised their kids yet and what I feel is cumulative fatigue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree with your take and don’t think OP is well-intentioned at all. Come on, making fun of an anorexic for bone breaks?

That said, I’ve noticed some really v unpleasant changes in some of my post-meno acquaintances. I don’t know whether they are using HRT or if they ever have. One just got fired in humiliating fashion from a volunteer job, a cruel experience that at the same time is not surprising; she cannot let other people just be, and is always verbally accosting them with accusations about being wrong about this or that situation. I’ve witnessed in these cases (not everyone) a total inability to be emotionally balanced and introspective, to hold the tongue for a strategically opportune time. It scares the S out of me, that despite my seeing this and being on appropriate hrt for my symptoms under a doctors care, that ill wake up totally estranged from myself and then estrange myself further by how I act.

Ffs. Menopause doesn’t give people personality disorders and HRT is not a mental health medication. At best (and this is significant) it can help you sleep better and that will help your mental health. But it is not going to cure a personality disorder.

If you have issues with your personality please see a therapist.

Get some help and feel free to FO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Estrogen’s decline actually physically caused less dopamine in the brain. So, most doctors know that menopause will unmask underlying disorders related to an imbalance of dopamine. So yes, if you are untreated, it will be worse.

Yep. But some beast is here screaming that “menopause doesn’t give personality disorders” when that wasn’t written.

[Anonymous]

In my group of friends I haven’t seen any overt craziness. I would say most of us are more anxious over all and annoyed with our husbands most of the time. That’s about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree with your take and don’t think OP is well-intentioned at all. Come on, making fun of an anorexic for bone breaks?

That said, I’ve noticed some really v unpleasant changes in some of my post-meno acquaintances. I don’t know whether they are using HRT or if they ever have. One just got fired in humiliating fashion from a volunteer job, a cruel experience that at the same time is not surprising; she cannot let other people just be, and is always verbally accosting them with accusations about being wrong about this or that situation. I’ve witnessed in these cases (not everyone) a total inability to be emotionally balanced and introspective, to hold the tongue for a strategically opportune time. It scares the S out of me, that despite my seeing this and being on appropriate hrt for my symptoms under a doctors care, that ill wake up totally estranged from myself and then estrange myself further by how I act.

DP
I don’t see op making fun of anyone. Why can’t people post what they observe? I’ll admit I’m seeing it too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Estrogen’s decline actually physically caused less dopamine in the brain. So, most doctors know that menopause will unmask underlying disorders related to an imbalance of dopamine. So yes, if you are untreated, it will be worse.

Don’t disagree with this for many, but I think people respond differently to hormonal changes. I feel like a complete space cadet—the brain fog is intense—but I’m way less crazed than when I had a monthly period. I used to fall into a deep, deep emotional hole and lash out irrationally right before my period. I really did feel crazy once a month when I was in my 30s. Those days are over, thank god. I’m fairly even keeled now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree with your take and don’t think OP is well-intentioned at all. Come on, making fun of an anorexic for bone breaks?

That said, I’ve noticed some really v unpleasant changes in some of my post-meno acquaintances. I don’t know whether they are using HRT or if they ever have. One just got fired in humiliating fashion from a volunteer job, a cruel experience that at the same time is not surprising; she cannot let other people just be, and is always verbally accosting them with accusations about being wrong about this or that situation. I’ve witnessed in these cases (not everyone) a total inability to be emotionally balanced and introspective, to hold the tongue for a strategically opportune time. It scares the S out of me, that despite my seeing this and being on appropriate hrt for my symptoms under a doctors care, that ill wake up totally estranged from myself and then estrange myself further by how I act.

DP
I don’t see op making fun of anyone. Why can’t people post what they observe? I’ll admit I’m seeing it too.

So odd that everyone can see it in their friends and not in themselves. I’m sure you and OP are talking about each other. People don’t need to out their friends and obsess over their friends in peri for your amusement. Talk to your ACTUAL friends and your medical providers.

[Anonymous]

Yes. It's also waking up from a 30 year slumber to realize you've spent your entire life people pleasing and fixing everything and you're 100 done.

[Anonymous]

Lol that if a 35 year old woman does something bad, she's just crazy, but if a 50 year old woman does something bad she's crazy *because of menopause.*

You've really cracked the code, OP. Kudos.

The PP who compared this to the people who think everything is ADHD was correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's also waking up from a 30 year slumber to realize you've spent your entire life people pleasing and fixing everything and you're 100 done.

Imagine feeling this way but also not whining about it.