Vanderbilt vs UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA OOS vs Vanderbilt? We are DC residents so get $15K off UVA from DC Tag.
This is a girl who is very mainstream in look and interests but is unsure about Greek life and does not want to be on a campus of only "preppy, wealthy people." (I realize both schools have an element of this but these are the choices she has).
Major is Neuroscience, pre-med.
Is Vanderbilt worth $15-25K more per year?
Thoughts?

Vanderbilt reports a higher premed first time acceptance rate to medical school than UVA has historically reported. Vanderbilt reported 78% in the link below. UVA does not currently provide a premed acceptance rate report on its website but has historically reported 52% to 60% acceptance rate.

Vanderbilt does have higher standardized test scores and higher test scores correlate to higher MCAT scores, so that could be a factor.

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/hpao/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2024/06/2023-Annual-Report.pdf

Usually these differences are attributable to how acceptances are counted. Schools with higher numbers tend to look at acceptances only for kids who get the Med School Committee letter, which is a weed out process. Vandy and UVA are peer schools, both of which have excellent medical schools.

[Anonymous]

Some weird trolling going on here, but I would not pay an additional $15,0000-20,000 to Vandy. The schools are academic peers (said as someone who doesn't have a kid at either) and there will be more rich kids at Vandy, and those kids will be significantly more wealthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA will have more of the preppy, wealthy vibe. It's present at Vanderbilt but the academic rigor is heightened a notch compared to UVA, which will bring in more normal work-hard play-hard kids. I would go for Vanderbilt.

I completely disagree. Apple Martin goes to Vanderbilt. There are kids with serious family money there. My child would not fit in in that environment. Greek life is huge and it’s in the south. In addition, you want to save money since med school is going to be so expensive. I’d go cheaper undergrad and UVA had an excellent med school.

False. False false false. As an actual parent of an actual current student I see it as my mission to correct all the TikTok misinformation on Vandy

Tons of current students, including every single one of my kid’s friends except 2, are middle class and get financial aid. Three of my kid’s very close friends are from lower middle class households in the Southern states. This is anecdata so look at the actual data for percentages of kids on FA.

The apple martins and alexa cubans run in their own tiny circles- and they’re don’t set the tone, because this type doesn’t mingle. And by the way, they're present at every top 20 school.

Cost of attendance at Vandy is $100,000 a year, and UVA in state is half that. It's not a tiny circle of Apple Martin's, full pay is about 40 percent of the class.

And what is the COA for OOS at UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA will have more of the preppy, wealthy vibe. It's present at Vanderbilt but the academic rigor is heightened a notch compared to UVA, which will bring in more normal work-hard play-hard kids. I would go for Vanderbilt.

I completely disagree. Apple Martin goes to Vanderbilt. There are kids with serious family money there. My child would not fit in in that environment. Greek life is huge and it’s in the south. In addition, you want to save money since med school is going to be so expensive. I’d go cheaper undergrad and UVA had an excellent med school.

False. False false false. As an actual parent of an actual current student I see it as my mission to correct all the TikTok misinformation on Vandy

Tons of current students, including every single one of my kid’s friends except 2, are middle class and get financial aid. Three of my kid’s very close friends are from lower middle class households in the Southern states. This is anecdata so look at the actual data for percentages of kids on FA.

The apple martins and alexa cubans run in their own tiny circles- and they’re don’t set the tone, because this type doesn’t mingle. And by the way, they're present at every top 20 school.

Cost of attendance at Vandy is $100,000 a year, and UVA in state is half that. It's not a tiny circle of Apple Martin's, full pay is about 40 percent of the class.

And what is the COA for OOS at UVA?

$20,000 less.

[Anonymous]

So many ignorant people here perpetuating tired rumors and stereotypes. So sad.

As discussed in another thread, being full pay at Vandy does not mean you are "rich." You are definitely comfortably UMC. But most of these kids are not Rockefellers. A lot of them are children of professionals who conservatively saved money because education is a huge priority. I know many of these types of families at both schools. I am very close to one at Vandy and their child is a very nice, down to earth kid, Greek but not your stereotypical Greek type, family lives fine but far from rich. And their child is extremely happy there.

Yes, they have their share of super wealthy types. But they generally don't set the tone on campus. Some kids might obsess over those types and get stressed about what they don't have, but if that is your kid, then you are a lousy parent for raising your kid with lousy values and priorities.

The decision comes down to feel and finances. Visit both and see where your kid feels happier. Trust their gut. And if the incremental cost is truly meaningful for you, factor that in. Everyone's finances are different so it is hard for random internet poster to intelligently opine on that.

Congratulations on two great options and good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA OOS vs Vanderbilt? We are DC residents so get $15K off UVA from DC Tag.
This is a girl who is very mainstream in look and interests but is unsure about Greek life and does not want to be on a campus of only "preppy, wealthy people." (I realize both schools have an element of this but these are the choices she has).
Major is Neuroscience, pre-med.
Is Vanderbilt worth $15-25K more per year?
Thoughts?

Vanderbilt reports a higher premed first time acceptance rate to medical school than UVA has historically reported. Vanderbilt reported 78% in the link below. UVA does not currently provide a premed acceptance rate report on its website but has historically reported 52% to 60% acceptance rate.

Vanderbilt does have higher standardized test scores and higher test scores correlate to higher MCAT scores, so that could be a factor.

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/hpao/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2024/06/2023-Annual-Report.pdf

Usually these differences are attributable to how acceptances are counted. Schools with higher numbers tend to look at acceptances only for kids who get the Med School Committee letter, which is a weed out process. Vandy and UVA are peer schools, both of which have excellent medical schools.

Both were for all first time applicants.

[Anonymous]

Do not discount the easy driving distance to UVA.

[Anonymous]

This thread was so predictable ... with the UVA haters and lovers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA OOS vs Vanderbilt? We are DC residents so get $15K off UVA from DC Tag.
This is a girl who is very mainstream in look and interests but is unsure about Greek life and does not want to be on a campus of only "preppy, wealthy people." (I realize both schools have an element of this but these are the choices she has).
Major is Neuroscience, pre-med.
Is Vanderbilt worth $15-25K more per year?
Thoughts?

Vanderbilt reports a higher premed first time acceptance rate to medical school than UVA has historically reported. Vanderbilt reported 78% in the link below. UVA does not currently provide a premed acceptance rate report on its website but has historically reported 52% to 60% acceptance rate.

Vanderbilt does have higher standardized test scores and higher test scores correlate to higher MCAT scores, so that could be a factor.

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/hpao/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2024/06/2023-Annual-Report.pdf

Usually these differences are attributable to how acceptances are counted. Schools with higher numbers tend to look at acceptances only for kids who get the Med School Committee letter, which is a weed out process. Vandy and UVA are peer schools, both of which have excellent medical schools.

Both were for all first time applicants.

Please read what I said again, did it mention second time applicants? I don’t think you know what the committee letter is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant people here perpetuating tired rumors and stereotypes. So sad.

As discussed in another thread, being full pay at Vandy does not mean you are "rich." You are definitely comfortably UMC. But most of these kids are not Rockefellers. A lot of them are children of professionals who conservatively saved money because education is a huge priority. I know many of these types of families at both schools. I am very close to one at Vandy and their child is a very nice, down to earth kid, Greek but not your stereotypical Greek type, family lives fine but far from rich. And their child is extremely happy there.

Yes, they have their share of super wealthy types. But they generally don't set the tone on campus. Some kids might obsess over those types and get stressed about what they don't have, but if that is your kid, then you are a lousy parent for raising your kid with lousy values and priorities.

The decision comes down to feel and finances. Visit both and see where your kid feels happier. Trust their gut. And if the incremental cost is truly meaningful for you, factor that in. Everyone's finances are different so it is hard for random internet poster to intelligently opine on that.

Congratulations on two great options and good luck!

Since I personally know one family that “bought their way in” this cycle at Vandy and another that did so in recent years and know no one who did so at UVA, I disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant people here perpetuating tired rumors and stereotypes. So sad.

As discussed in another thread, being full pay at Vandy does not mean you are "rich." You are definitely comfortably UMC. But most of these kids are not Rockefellers. A lot of them are children of professionals who conservatively saved money because education is a huge priority. I know many of these types of families at both schools. I am very close to one at Vandy and their child is a very nice, down to earth kid, Greek but not your stereotypical Greek type, family lives fine but far from rich. And their child is extremely happy there.

Yes, they have their share of super wealthy types. But they generally don't set the tone on campus. Some kids might obsess over those types and get stressed about what they don't have, but if that is your kid, then you are a lousy parent for raising your kid with lousy values and priorities.

The decision comes down to feel and finances. Visit both and see where your kid feels happier. Trust their gut. And if the incremental cost is truly meaningful for you, factor that in. Everyone's finances are different so it is hard for random internet poster to intelligently opine on that.

Congratulations on two great options and good luck!

Since I personally know one family that “bought their way in” this cycle at Vandy and another that did so in recent years and know no one who did so at UVA, I disagree.

Wow. You have two rich friends. Aren't you special. And you are dumb enough to generalize off of two data points. You don't sound like UVA or Vandy material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant people here perpetuating tired rumors and stereotypes. So sad.

As discussed in another thread, being full pay at Vandy does not mean you are "rich." You are definitely comfortably UMC. But most of these kids are not Rockefellers. A lot of them are children of professionals who conservatively saved money because education is a huge priority. I know many of these types of families at both schools. I am very close to one at Vandy and their child is a very nice, down to earth kid, Greek but not your stereotypical Greek type, family lives fine but far from rich. And their child is extremely happy there.

Yes, they have their share of super wealthy types. But they generally don't set the tone on campus. Some kids might obsess over those types and get stressed about what they don't have, but if that is your kid, then you are a lousy parent for raising your kid with lousy values and priorities.

The decision comes down to feel and finances. Visit both and see where your kid feels happier. Trust their gut. And if the incremental cost is truly meaningful for you, factor that in. Everyone's finances are different so it is hard for random internet poster to intelligently opine on that.

Congratulations on two great options and good luck!

Since I personally know one family that “bought their way in” this cycle at Vandy and another that did so in recent years and know no one who did so at UVA, I disagree.

Wow. You have two rich friends. Aren't you special. And you are dumb enough to generalize off of two data points. You don't sound like UVA or Vandy material.

The point flew over your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many ignorant people here perpetuating tired rumors and stereotypes. So sad.

As discussed in another thread, being full pay at Vandy does not mean you are "rich." You are definitely comfortably UMC. But most of these kids are not Rockefellers. A lot of them are children of professionals who conservatively saved money because education is a huge priority. I know many of these types of families at both schools. I am very close to one at Vandy and their child is a very nice, down to earth kid, Greek but not your stereotypical Greek type, family lives fine but far from rich. And their child is extremely happy there.

Yes, they have their share of super wealthy types. But they generally don't set the tone on campus. Some kids might obsess over those types and get stressed about what they don't have, but if that is your kid, then you are a lousy parent for raising your kid with lousy values and priorities.

The decision comes down to feel and finances. Visit both and see where your kid feels happier. Trust their gut. And if the incremental cost is truly meaningful for you, factor that in. Everyone's finances are different so it is hard for random internet poster to intelligently opine on that.

Congratulations on two great options and good luck!

Since I personally know one family that “bought their way in” this cycle at Vandy and another that did so in recent years and know no one who did so at UVA, I disagree.

Wow. You have two rich friends. Aren't you special. And you are dumb enough to generalize off of two data points. You don't sound like UVA or Vandy material.

The point flew over your head.

No. It really didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA OOS vs Vanderbilt? We are DC residents so get $15K off UVA from DC Tag.
This is a girl who is very mainstream in look and interests but is unsure about Greek life and does not want to be on a campus of only "preppy, wealthy people." (I realize both schools have an element of this but these are the choices she has).
Major is Neuroscience, pre-med.
Is Vanderbilt worth $15-25K more per year?
Thoughts?

Vanderbilt reports a higher premed first time acceptance rate to medical school than UVA has historically reported. Vanderbilt reported 78% in the link below. UVA does not currently provide a premed acceptance rate report on its website but has historically reported 52% to 60% acceptance rate.

Vanderbilt does have higher standardized test scores and higher test scores correlate to higher MCAT scores, so that could be a factor.

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/hpao/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2024/06/2023-Annual-Report.pdf

Usually these differences are attributable to how acceptances are counted. Schools with higher numbers tend to look at acceptances only for kids who get the Med School Committee letter, which is a weed out process. Vandy and UVA are peer schools, both of which have excellent medical schools.

Both were for all first time applicants.

Please read what I said again, did it mention second time applicants? I don’t think you know what the committee letter is.

All applicants includes those with and without a committee letter. Yes, not getting a recommendation (either committee or directly from faculty) lowers likelihood of acceptance or likelihood of applying. Another thing schools do is include only those with GPA over 3.x. Both of these included all GPAs. I note again that UVA no longer publishes data, unlike Vanderbilt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA will have more of the preppy, wealthy vibe. It's present at Vanderbilt but the academic rigor is heightened a notch compared to UVA, which will bring in more normal work-hard play-hard kids. I would go for Vanderbilt.

I completely disagree. Apple Martin goes to Vanderbilt. There are kids with serious family money there. My child would not fit in in that environment. Greek life is huge and it’s in the south. In addition, you want to save money since med school is going to be so expensive. I’d go cheaper undergrad and UVA had an excellent med school.

Yeah my perception of Vanderbilt is unserious rich kids who want a veneer of prestige.

No, that’s Brown.