Rigor - Is it that important?
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Anonymous
No you need both to get into a top School. you need rigor. And superlative grades. Period. |
Anonymous
And then he runs home and shares the info with Mommy? Ick! |
Anonymous
Which part do you think is fiction? |
Anonymous
You know SEVERAL kids that attend a T20, their HS course schedule AND their GPAs? Are you a guidance counselor? |
Anonymous
One hundred percent true, if unhooked |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
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3.98/4.5, 1560 got WL at UVA a couple years ago.
4y FL, World, APUSH, APGov, Phy C-Mech, E&M, Calc BC, Calc 3/Linear BUT no lang nor lit. Yep, rigor in ALL areas. |
Anonymous
Not in English. UVA is infamous for wanting top rigor in all 5 core areas. |
Anonymous
Oh sorry - you were saying you need rigor in all areas. Misunderstood. We agree. |
Anonymous
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What kind of schools are you asking about, OP?
top 20? top 20-30? Top 30-60? |
Anonymous
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Top rigor only in area of study ok for Princeton, Michigan, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UCLA.
In my experience |
Anonymous
The fictional part: treat any one data point as magical. Laying out the anecdotal "rules" as the absolute truth. The fact: Holistic review, NO ONE SINGLE data point is magical. |
Anonymous
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This is (1) high school dependent, (2) major dependent, and (3) college dependent. Look at your school data, and look at CDS of various colleges.
Take Cornell as an example: https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2018/11/a-look-inside-how-cornell-accepts-its-students However, grades are not the only thing that the admissions officers value on transcripts. In addition to the level of performance, Locke said Cornell also looks at how demanding those courses are. In colleges like CALS, where students must pick a major or at least specify a general subject in their applications, admission officers will also take into consideration whether the students have taken and performed well in classes relevant to their intended major. “If you’re applying to biological engineering, then you need to have very robust … coursework in math and science,” Tan said. “Otherwise, you won’t be able to handle the work here.” When evaluating transcripts, Cornell doesn’t compare students from different schools, as high schools across the country differ in the depth and width of course offerings. The selection criteria is based on whether the applicant is taking “the most challenging courses within their school” and their performance compared to other students from the same school, and not on the number of AP courses they have taken. |
Anonymous
Seems the same at my kids’school. I blame the convoluted (noAP) explanation in the academic profile they send to colleges. |
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My child’s small private school does not offer any AP classes except APUSH. She took honors classes and had strong LORs.
She went test optional. 4.5 GPA. She was accepted to UVM, F&M, UofMaryland Honors and Bucknell. |