TT / 2T Definitions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If TT is about bragging rights and social standing then it makes sense to define + enforce it scrupulously, based on how that school is perceived among the community whose opinions you care about. (hence the fight over Riverdale)

If TT is about college admissions then it's an open question whether + how much that has to do with the school itself rather than the kids who choose to go there, and it effectively becomes a test of how many rich/famous/connected kids you can recruit.

If TT is about "fit" then it's a meaningless distinction because there's no reason that the schools with the right "fit" for one particular type of kids should be considered better than any others.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You? Positive vibes 😂😂. You’re delusional!. You come here and insult people that have done nothing but make/comment on a post. Insult their family and wish them harm. If this is what joy looks like for you then I’m sorry for your children. You don’t need luck, you need a prayer.

U mad bro?

[Anonymous]

Bro?? Go back to the corner!

[Anonymous]

TT is a set of schools. It's set. You can't change it. It's like the Ivy League. You can argue here are others that are better, that's fine. There are better schools than Dartmouth, for sure. But the TT are the TT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TT is a set of schools. It's set. You can't change it. It's like the Ivy League. You can argue here are others that are better, that's fine. There are better schools than Dartmouth, for sure. But the TT are the TT.

This would be the "bragging rights and social standing" version. Which is fine - certainly the reason a lot of people send their kids to Trinity is because they want to be able to tell other people their kid goes to Trinity, and as long as the kid gets a good education and most of the effort to get them in was on the parents' part rather than the kid's (as is certainly the case for K and honestly even for 6th/9th), have at it; there's no more need to apologize for it than there is to apologize for owning a park-view penthouse or a Mercedes S-Class.

The difference is that while a degree from Dartmouth is probably still going to be more useful than one from, say, Northwestern in landing you a job in some industries on account of that Ivy League prestige, it's not as clear if the college admissions boost from Trinity versus Trevor Day or whatever is meaningful for any given kid.

[Anonymous]

K-8 schools should be graded on the same scale as K-12 schools. Some of the K-8 schools prepare their kids so well that they often become top of their class in high school. People are starting to see the real benefit of K-8 and that’s one of the reasons why it was extremely competitive (especially all-boys) this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TT is a set of schools. It's set. You can't change it. It's like the Ivy League. You can argue here are others that are better, that's fine. There are better schools than Dartmouth, for sure. But the TT are the TT.

This would be the "bragging rights and social standing" version. Which is fine - certainly the reason a lot of people send their kids to Trinity is because they want to be able to tell other people their kid goes to Trinity, and as long as the kid gets a good education and most of the effort to get them in was on the parents' part rather than the kid's (as is certainly the case for K and honestly even for 6th/9th), have at it; there's no more need to apologize for it than there is to apologize for owning a park-view penthouse or a Mercedes S-Class.

The difference is that while a degree from Dartmouth is probably still going to be more useful than one from, say, Northwestern in landing you a job in some industries on account of that Ivy League prestige, it's not as clear if the college admissions boost from Trinity versus Trevor Day or whatever is meaningful for any given kid.

Yes, it's clear.

[Anonymous]

TT is set and has been for 30 years.

if you want to come up with a list of top 10 schools for admissions to college etc - like a US Nrews-style list - go at it. But don't call it "TT". That just confuses people. US News doesn't rank schools and then call them the Ivy League.

Write a top 10 list! Go for it. But TT is TT.

[Anonymous]

So Fieldston was never TT? Apparently not, because no school can ever fall out of TT (it's a permanent group).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:K-8 schools should be graded on the same scale as K-12 schools. Some of the K-8 schools prepare their kids so well that they often become top of their class in high school. People are starting to see the real benefit of K-8 and that’s one of the reasons why it was extremely competitive (especially all-boys) this year.

Which would be the “TT” K8? In terms of exmissions, academics and competitive to gain admission. I can only think of St B and maybe Buckley

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Fieldston was never TT? Apparently not, because no school can ever fall out of TT (it's a permanent group).

correct.

Is fieldston even a modern day top 10? I'd say no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's clear.

It’s really not; if you’re smart enough to keep up at Trinity, you can go to a lower tier private or a public school, be in the top 10% of your class, do 2 hours a night if homework instead of 4, use the extra 2 hours to pad out your extracurriculars and/or simply enjoy being a teenager, and have pretty much the same odds of getting into Harvard that you would have had at Trinity.

The “pressure cooker” thing is about internal competition - colleges don’t give you much credit for it, because most kids don’t go to those sorts of schools and can’t be faulted for not enduring a similar workload.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Is fieldston even a modern day top 10? I'd say no.

Academically never, there certainly was a period where it was the hot celebrity school and this boosted some of its numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the type of person that comes to post on here. Don’t act like you’re too fancy and had not wondered this same question during the process of committing $70k/year to a service. Get off your soap box.

Anonymous wrote:OP may I ask what school you go to, values and background of your family? Just trying to understand what type of person cares this deeply about defining TT/2T schools

The fact that people consider school a service is such an impossibly depressing testament and view into the types of people desperate to get their kids into schools. It’s embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Given that most kids can’t afford private school, and that TT private schools turn away far more qualified applicants than they accept and do so for mostly arbitrary/random reasons, it would be downright irrational for a college admissions office to attach any great significance to whether or not someone attended one of those schools.