TT / 2T Definitions

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Anonymous wrote:Despite the sexism and rose colored glasses of the law hater who idolizes bankers (lol at thinking an associate in IB is a great outcome), corporate law is overrated as a career choice. I’m in my 40s, partner at a V50 (some here may scoff at that, I started at a much better firm and lateraled down twice for my marriage, I can assure you there’s a world of difference in demands). I fundraise for my boarding school class and my non-HYP Ivy, so I don’t live under a rock. A minority of my classmates are complete mess ups without any career or solid income (as in $150,000). There’s more of this than you may think if you didn’t go to an Ivy, they’re not rich either. Of the rest, many are trust fund babies who pretend to work in media or at art galleries or got a medical degree they didn’t use for more than a few years. The remainder are extremely ambitious and hard working and enter fields like finance law and tech. Without a doubt, I work longer hours and pack more in each of those hours than those in other fields. My work is more tedious, dull, and lacking in a range of responsibilities. The worst part is how hard it is to do something else. In tech you can always join a high risk start up, financiers can join a portco or a boutique or something to work less. If you’re at a big law firm you are as specialized as it gets and it’s not like you can just go join a small firm or go in house and be okay financially.

And some people just like the law and don’t like finance or engineering or computer science. Different strokes for different folks.

Go find a 100+ page PSA agreement and redline it without Claude. Corporate law and M&A law (public and private) are mind numbing fields. Almost no one enjoys it. No one from my law school class who had a real adult job beforehand would enter law again, they’d have let their previous career move forward no matter how flawed it was (and this includes teachers making 50k).

There are plenty of lawyers who don’t do that crap. I’m a litigator and I like the job. It also pays really well. Sounds like you are bitter for some reason, and I’m sorry for that, but good legal careers are possible.

And you are also very argumentative which is a good characteristic for a lawyer. Can we move on?

It actually is not a good characteristic for a lawyer, that is nonsense from Suits and Law and Order. Speaking of which, below is another reason investment banking is better than law.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RNF5Y9xp2io

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Anonymous wrote:K-8 schools should be graded on the same scale as K-12 schools. Some of the K-8 schools prepare their kids so well that they often become top of their class in high school. People are starting to see the real benefit of K-8 and that’s one of the reasons why it was extremely competitive (especially all-boys) this year.

Which would be the “TT” K8? In terms of exmissions, academics and competitive to gain admission. I can only think of St B and maybe Buckley

St B sounds right

St Ignatius but a niche audience

Lol

They have the single largest number of boys attending Regis every year and an equivalent number going on to Exeter, Lawernceville, etc. They also have lower acceptance rates than St B's, St D's and Buckley. Does that not qualify?

It does not. Stop trying to make St. Ignatius as a TT happen. Please.

Bitter much, lol. Our TT PSD would disagree given the statistics, with the caveat that the non-connected acceptance rate is artificially low because of the price point/some other admissions policies. No horse in the race, we are at St D’s as we did not want a parish school but the truth is the truth.

Non-connected acceptance rate? You mean, like connected to St. Ignatius specifically? Like alumni or something? Real connected people in NYC do not send their kids to St. Ignatius. Lol.

As a third-generation New Yorker who has actually sat in admissions meetings, I can tell you that you are categorically incorrect.

The original question was about TT acceptance + exmissions rates on a non-connected basis, and the facts I gave are accurate. Even a tiny feeder like Caedmon still sends a higher percentage of its graduating class to Horace Mann than the K-8s mentioned.

Where do you think prominent Irish-Catholic families like the Maras sent their kids for elementary? St. Ignatius has been the default for many of these NY families for generations.

Happy to be corrected with actual data, but I’m done. Cheers.

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Anonymous wrote:Despite the sexism and rose colored glasses of the law hater who idolizes bankers (lol at thinking an associate in IB is a great outcome), corporate law is overrated as a career choice. I’m in my 40s, partner at a V50 (some here may scoff at that, I started at a much better firm and lateraled down twice for my marriage, I can assure you there’s a world of difference in demands). I fundraise for my boarding school class and my non-HYP Ivy, so I don’t live under a rock. A minority of my classmates are complete mess ups without any career or solid income (as in $150,000). There’s more of this than you may think if you didn’t go to an Ivy, they’re not rich either. Of the rest, many are trust fund babies who pretend to work in media or at art galleries or got a medical degree they didn’t use for more than a few years. The remainder are extremely ambitious and hard working and enter fields like finance law and tech. Without a doubt, I work longer hours and pack more in each of those hours than those in other fields. My work is more tedious, dull, and lacking in a range of responsibilities. The worst part is how hard it is to do something else. In tech you can always join a high risk start up, financiers can join a portco or a boutique or something to work less. If you’re at a big law firm you are as specialized as it gets and it’s not like you can just go join a small firm or go in house and be okay financially.

And some people just like the law and don’t like finance or engineering or computer science. Different strokes for different folks.

Go find a 100+ page PSA agreement and redline it without Claude. Corporate law and M&A law (public and private) are mind numbing fields. Almost no one enjoys it. No one from my law school class who had a real adult job beforehand would enter law again, they’d have let their previous career move forward no matter how flawed it was (and this includes teachers making 50k).

There are plenty of lawyers who don’t do that crap. I’m a litigator and I like the job. It also pays really well. Sounds like you are bitter for some reason, and I’m sorry for that, but good legal careers are possible.

No one said good legal careers are impossible. Most of the time, however, someone with a good legal career would have made more money doing something more interesting with fewer hours in a different line of white collar work.

Most big law attorneys are not litigators. Litigation, in the form of Morgan & Morgan style franchising (also known as "$hitlaw") is more interesting and compelling than what 99.999999% of white shoe litigators do. When done properly with 1-800 numbers and grey area marketing (ambulance chasing), it can be more lucrative.

Only the most senior corporate attorneys at V50 firms avoid the "crap" you refer to. They are deep in the septic tank of document turnover and answering emails on Sunday, let alone cancelling vacation plans around Christmas because of a last minute deal.

You moved the goalposts so much in this thread it’s hard to follow what you’re talking about anymore. But yes, all students should strive for easy going, low work, low stress, high paying FAANG or finance jobs that will make them rich. Tons of jobs like that out there. Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Despite the sexism and rose colored glasses of the law hater who idolizes bankers (lol at thinking an associate in IB is a great outcome), corporate law is overrated as a career choice. I’m in my 40s, partner at a V50 (some here may scoff at that, I started at a much better firm and lateraled down twice for my marriage, I can assure you there’s a world of difference in demands). I fundraise for my boarding school class and my non-HYP Ivy, so I don’t live under a rock. A minority of my classmates are complete mess ups without any career or solid income (as in $150,000). There’s more of this than you may think if you didn’t go to an Ivy, they’re not rich either. Of the rest, many are trust fund babies who pretend to work in media or at art galleries or got a medical degree they didn’t use for more than a few years. The remainder are extremely ambitious and hard working and enter fields like finance law and tech. Without a doubt, I work longer hours and pack more in each of those hours than those in other fields. My work is more tedious, dull, and lacking in a range of responsibilities. The worst part is how hard it is to do something else. In tech you can always join a high risk start up, financiers can join a portco or a boutique or something to work less. If you’re at a big law firm you are as specialized as it gets and it’s not like you can just go join a small firm or go in house and be okay financially.

And some people just like the law and don’t like finance or engineering or computer science. Different strokes for different folks.

Go find a 100+ page PSA agreement and redline it without Claude. Corporate law and M&A law (public and private) are mind numbing fields. Almost no one enjoys it. No one from my law school class who had a real adult job beforehand would enter law again, they’d have let their previous career move forward no matter how flawed it was (and this includes teachers making 50k).

There are plenty of lawyers who don’t do that crap. I’m a litigator and I like the job. It also pays really well. Sounds like you are bitter for some reason, and I’m sorry for that, but good legal careers are possible.

No one said good legal careers are impossible. Most of the time, however, someone with a good legal career would have made more money doing something more interesting with fewer hours in a different line of white collar work.

Most big law attorneys are not litigators. Litigation, in the form of Morgan & Morgan style franchising (also known as "$hitlaw") is more interesting and compelling than what 99.999999% of white shoe litigators do. When done properly with 1-800 numbers and grey area marketing (ambulance chasing), it can be more lucrative.

Only the most senior corporate attorneys at V50 firms avoid the "crap" you refer to. They are deep in the septic tank of document turnover and answering emails on Sunday, let alone cancelling vacation plans around Christmas because of a last minute deal.

You moved the goalposts so much in this thread it’s hard to follow what you’re talking about anymore. But yes, all students should strive for easy going, low work, low stress, high paying FAANG or finance jobs that will make them rich. Tons of jobs like that out there. Lol.

That’s not what I said. Just don’t tell some 22 year old to turn down that BB offer and to go to uva or duke law instead. It’ll probably ruin his life.