Getting Rescinded, when to worry, calculus 😬

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Anonymous wrote:Just always keep up with the materials. Whenever she has questions, ask the teacher right away. It’s pretty difficult to get a C in high school, unless she doesn’t bother at all.

Absolutely untrue at my DC’s DC private. If you do average work and average effort you definitely get a C.

Your definition of average is unique.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Econ is out as a major unless the reason for bad grades is shirking. Econ is mathy now.

Bullshit. So many athletes and donor kids are doing Econ. I bet they have a “Calculus for Econ” class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, this situation is not at all uncommon, especially with calc. Life happens, senioritis happens, less-talented calc teachers also sometimes happen.

Rescinding depends on the college, but most privates will be fine with a C. My oldest kid was admitted to a T30 private and got a D second semester calc (personal issues took over life at that point) and never even heard a peep from the college. One of my other kids got a D in second semester calc for failing to turn in any homework and got a letter from his T80 school about on campus help/resources; got a 5 on the exam and started in multivariable in college.

Once a college has admitted and enrolled a student, they really don't want to rescind. It's interesting, because had the same poor grade come prior to admission, it may have been much more significant.

Just try to get it up to a C and then there will be less to worry about. Highly selective schools may want an explanation for a D.

This is consistent with my experience with the Top 30 my DS got admitted to last year. I called during the second semester and got a similar response. But Top 20s and Top SLACs may be different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you for your responses. Her narrative/intended major is not STEM necessarily; she's really undecided but has considered Econ or Biology.

I feel like a C is attainable, but there's likely no way she's able to get a B-. If admissions does inquire, there's no excuse othere than "it's hard!". Maybe they'll appreciate her honesty lol.

She should not consider majoring in Econ if she thinks HS calculus is too difficult. Econ uses a lot of math. Biology less so.

This is not true at all!

OP - Do not,under any circumstances, allow your DD to be scared off from Econ or anything else based on her experience with HS calc!!!

We’ve seen strong high school math students struggle with college math, and we’ve seen the reverse, as well.

So much depends on the teacher/professor, the kid’s state of mind at the time (their priorities/focus), and their “why” (why are they taking the class - does it matter to them or is it merely a means to an end (maintain rigor in HS or meet a distribution requirement in college) vs. connected to a true academic interest or applied to a topic or set of issues they care about.)

No the PP is completely right.

Any upper level Econ classes (aka above Macro and Micro principles) require calc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Econ is out as a major unless the reason for bad grades is shirking. Econ is mathy now.

Bullshit. So many athletes and donor kids are doing Econ. I bet they have a “Calculus for Econ” class.

I think you’re mixing up Finance bros and majoring in Econ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you for your responses. Her narrative/intended major is not STEM necessarily; she's really undecided but has considered Econ or Biology.

I feel like a C is attainable, but there's likely no way she's able to get a B-. If admissions does inquire, there's no excuse othere than "it's hard!". Maybe they'll appreciate her honesty lol.

She should not consider majoring in Econ if she thinks HS calculus is too difficult. Econ uses a lot of math. Biology less so.

This is not true at all!

OP - Do not,under any circumstances, allow your DD to be scared off from Econ or anything else based on her experience with HS calc!!!

We’ve seen strong high school math students struggle with college math, and we’ve seen the reverse, as well.

So much depends on the teacher/professor, the kid’s state of mind at the time (their priorities/focus), and their “why” (why are they taking the class - does it matter to them or is it merely a means to an end (maintain rigor in HS or meet a distribution requirement in college) vs. connected to a true academic interest or applied to a topic or set of issues they care about.)

No the PP is completely right.

Any upper level Econ classes (aka above Macro and Micro principles) require calc.

This is not true! Have you ever looked at their curriculum?

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I do not think it will be a problem...but I recommend she retakes the class in college to fill in any gaps. My son did this for engineering and was so glad he did. Learned different things in college and had a great foundation to go forward
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Econ is out as a major unless the reason for bad grades is shirking. Econ is mathy now.

Bullshit. So many athletes and donor kids are doing Econ. I bet they have a “Calculus for Econ” class.

I think you’re mixing up Finance bros and majoring in Econ.

Econ is the number one major for fin bros.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Econ is out as a major unless the reason for bad grades is shirking. Econ is mathy now.

Bullshit. So many athletes and donor kids are doing Econ. I bet they have a “Calculus for Econ” class.

I think you’re mixing up Finance bros and majoring in Econ.

Econ is the number one major for fin bros.

Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a tough major, at least at any halfway decent school.

[Anonymous]

lol to the people saying Econ is easy.

Go take an econometrics class.

Real Econ requires not only calculus, but linear algebra, real analysis, etc.

[Anonymous]

I think that one still can do econ major with minimal calculus. But there’re just classes you can’t take! Also, many competitive jobs for econ major require strong analytical skills.

At the Ph.D. level, econ is practically an applied math subject with economic intuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Econ is out as a major unless the reason for bad grades is shirking. Econ is mathy now.

Bullshit. So many athletes and donor kids are doing Econ. I bet they have a “Calculus for Econ” class.

I think you’re mixing up Finance bros and majoring in Econ.

Econ is the number one major for fin bros.

Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a tough major, at least at any halfway decent school.

One can make it tough by taking the courses on the mathy side. One (athletes and donor kids) can make it easy by taking the standard route. In general it’s not a “tough” major. OP should do just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lol to the people saying Econ is easy.

Go take an econometrics class.

Real Econ requires not only calculus, but linear algebra, real analysis, etc.

You don’t need econmetrics for graduating with an Econ major.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:lol to the people saying Econ is easy.

Go take an econometrics class.

Real Econ requires not only calculus, but linear algebra, real analysis, etc.

You don’t need econmetrics for graduating with an Econ major.

Not true. I would assume Michigan’s requirements are standard:

https://lsa.umich.edu/lsa/academics/majors-minors/economics-major.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol to the people saying Econ is easy.

Go take an econometrics class.

Real Econ requires not only calculus, but linear algebra, real analysis, etc.

You don’t need econmetrics for graduating with an Econ major.

Not true. I would assume Michigan’s requirements are standard:

https://lsa.umich.edu/lsa/academics/majors-minors/economics-major.html

You are an idiot! 251 OR 452 OR 454. The standard route is 251. Requires little calculus.