What percentage of rich, famous and powerful are evil and corrupt?

[Anonymous]

Rich: Nearly all. 95+%. You basically have to be exploiting people to be rich. (I assume by rich here you mean net worths of like $10 million + or annual income above seven figures, not just like $500k income good savers or people whose parents left than $1 million).

Powerful: Well, a lot of powerful people are rich. For those folks, see above. For powerful, non-rich people (mostly political power at that point): 50%? Being evil and/or corrupt is a good way to become powerful, but you can also be persuasive and passionate. Thinking about, for example, recent presidential candidates, I wouldn't call Biden, Harris, Romney, McCain, Obama, Clinton, or either Bush "evil" or "corrupt" - even though I disagreed with many of their policies and many of them did pretty shitty things. I actually think you see more evil and corruption in the senate - large numbers there. The House is a mix. Supreme Court - currently a mix, historically majority non-evil/non-corrupt.

Famous: Mostly non-evil. Most of the famous are performers or athletes. I'd actually say most of your non-evil rich people are the famous performers. Musicians, famous sports people, your big influencers. Yeah, a decent amount are evil/corrupt, but less than the above categories. Lots of them got to the top honestly. I'd say 30%?

Overall population evil/corrupt: <5%

[Anonymous]

30%

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90%

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Anonymous wrote:I think to get to a lot of those levels, men and women have to have a certain level of sociopathic/psychopathic behavior. There is a lot behind the scenes that's necessary to get to that level, and you don't get there by being nice and morally right to everyone.

I think this sort of thing is like an addiction. Like, they keep needing more and more (money, sex, drugs) to feel something. And at some point 1-1 relationships seem boring. So, they keep ramping it up because they have everything at their easy access. They need something more extreme to feel something and to feel special/have things others don't have. In no way excusing it, it's horrible, but I don't think these people all start off as bad people. Even look at the first wives and children of some of these folks - seem like normal, decent people. But more recent decisions seem in line with just wanting more, more, more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think to get to a lot of those levels, men and women have to have a certain level of sociopathic/psychopathic behavior. There is a lot behind the scenes that's necessary to get to that level, and you don't get there by being nice and morally right to everyone.

Agree. You have to be ruthless to be a CEO of a large company, for example (in addition to other things, but ruthlessness is pretty much a requirement).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think to get to a lot of those levels, men and women have to have a certain level of sociopathic/psychopathic behavior. There is a lot behind the scenes that's necessary to get to that level, and you don't get there by being nice and morally right to everyone.

I think this sort of thing is like an addiction. Like, they keep needing more and more (money, sex, drugs) to feel something. And at some point 1-1 relationships seem boring. So, they keep ramping it up because they have everything at their easy access. They need something more extreme to feel something and to feel special/have things others don't have. In no way excusing it, it's horrible, but I don't think these people all start off as bad people. Even look at the first wives and children of some of these folks - seem like normal, decent people. But more recent decisions seem in line with just wanting more, more, more.

Because they're hyper greedy, hyper competitive, and hyper ruthless people, which is why they are driven to do things like acquire wealth at the expense of others when they have more money than they and future generations could ever use.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Famous: Mostly non-evil. Most of the famous are performers or athletes. I'd actually say most of your non-evil rich people are the famous performers. Musicians, famous sports people, your big influencers. Yeah, a decent amount are evil/corrupt, but less than the above categories. Lots of them got to the top honestly. I'd say 30%?

Overall population evil/corrupt: <5%

Famous = mostly pedophiles or friends of pedophiles who stay silent and thereby perpetuate pedophilia.

Hollywood knows all about the pedophiles; All of Hollywood knew all about Weinstein for years, or even decades, while he victimized woman after woman; some were even children.

Yet Hollywood said nothing at that time.

I am certain there is a younger version of Weinstein who is now doing the same thing to women in Hollywood today.

The music industry is no better (just look at rich, famous, and powerful P. Diddy).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve known 2 men who were billionaires (met thru work/worked with them).

First one was a jerk. Was used to yelling and intimidating everyone to get his way. The first day I met him, he yelled and me and cussed me out for something I had literally nothing to do with (think, like, a bird pooped on his car). Extremely controlling of his wife. I could tell he viewed her more as a possession and beneath him.

Second one was a great, great guy. Extremely chill, kind, strong moral code, absolutely devoted to his wife. I actually felt kind of bad for him, his wife was often pretty mean to him.

The second one is a good example of how even if you aren't evil if you are famous, rich, or powerful, the hangers-on around you probably are. I went to school with some people who were extremely wealthy (billionaire heirs) or famous, and the people who surrounded them were uniformly terrible, even if the person was ok.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:99.999%

Came here to say this...and I study these people for a living.

Really? say more? Are you a lawyer?

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of evil, corrupt broke men sitting in basements. They'd be on that island in a minute if they weren't so broke.

And women also

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical? [/quote

Probably 100%. Wealth is power and power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Billionaires have absolute power until, and unless we, the hoi poilloi rebel. We are a country founded on a revolution and it's way past time that we took our country back to GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think to get to a lot of those levels, men and women have to have a certain level of sociopathic/psychopathic behavior. There is a lot behind the scenes that's necessary to get to that level, and you don't get there by being nice and morally right to everyone.

Agree. You have to be ruthless to be a CEO of a large company, for example (in addition to other things, but ruthlessness is pretty much a requirement).

And even to get to a VP or SVP level at many Fortune 500 companies you have to be pretty ruthless. If you get that far without exploiting colleagues or treating them badly, then it’s likely you exploited your family or your household employees (wife, nanny, mother) in order to extract the time and labor needed to allow you to focus on your career progression.

It’s been interesting to watch the trajectories of my most successful business school classmates. Even people who are still my friends because of our shared history are people who I wouldn’t be friends with now. They are ruthless in their fields and have treated me in some pretty unkind or thoughtless ways over the years- but the are socially clever about it so it’s nothing I could pinpoint to an outsider.

[Anonymous]

Well money allows for opportunity to be all kinds of whomever your want to be. There is "power" in wealth in that you have a certain latitude that those with less do not - it's a freedom.

That said, if you're a good person, the money won't make you "bad" and if you were pretty corrupted already, the money will just assure your destiny.

Most people aren't 100% saints nor sinners. Even the "corrupt and evil" may not be 100% who you think they are. It's not something anyone would know unless you know them personally. Even those who you swear are the nicest people - that's why people get surprised so often - you never can know someone inside out.. my point is that I think it is what it is that rich people are apt to take advantage of freedoms offered so they are likely to seem evil and corrupt but the truth is it's not the money that makes them that way it's opportunity to do so.

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[Anonymous]

Well, there is a bias created by the fact that the people who avoided his orbit are not in the files.