MacArthur feeder panic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

JR is losing families with high performing kids too. People are just leaving DCPS in general. College admits are not as good as in the past.
That’s the reality.

I think this is true generally. We were really happy at our DCPS for elementary school but left for middle and feel a lot of relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like people have never been in the building but have a lot of assumptions about what is happening there. They have open houses, you should go. On their acceptance wall are the likes of Howard, Princeton, American, Penn State, Maryland, Minnesota, NC A&T, and SCAD just to name a few. Kids can be very successful at MacArthur.

I'm not arguing any of those are bad schools, they are great schools. But those are comparable to Coolidge and this board would die before sending their kids to Coolidge. They've had Howard, Hopkins, Bucknell, Pitt, PSU, American, NCA&T, Spellman, Morehouse, Georgetown, the last two years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like people have never been in the building but have a lot of assumptions about what is happening there. They have open houses, you should go. On their acceptance wall are the likes of Howard, Princeton, American, Penn State, Maryland, Minnesota, NC A&T, and SCAD just to name a few. Kids can be very successful at MacArthur.

I'm not arguing any of those are bad schools, they are great schools. But those are comparable to Coolidge and this board would die before sending their kids to Coolidge. They've had Howard, Hopkins, Bucknell, Pitt, PSU, American, NCA&T, Spellman, Morehouse, Georgetown, the last two years.

But, kids on this board do send their kids to Coolidge. Both lists are good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

JR is losing families with high performing kids too. People are just leaving DCPS in general. College admits are not as good as in the past.
That’s the reality.

I think this is true generally. We were really happy at our DCPS for elementary school but left for middle and feel a lot of relief.

I'm glad you made the choice that was right for your family, but I don't understand the need to come back and bash those who have made different choices. Should you be posting in your new school's board. Also, you'll never know what middle school and high school would have looked like in DC schools. All you know is that you have less anxiety now. Which is great, but not a good measure of how the school system would have or would not have served your children if you had stayed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like people have never been in the building but have a lot of assumptions about what is happening there. They have open houses, you should go. On their acceptance wall are the likes of Howard, Princeton, American, Penn State, Maryland, Minnesota, NC A&T, and SCAD just to name a few. Kids can be very successful at MacArthur.

I'm not arguing any of those are bad schools, they are great schools. But those are comparable to Coolidge and this board would die before sending their kids to Coolidge. They've had Howard, Hopkins, Bucknell, Pitt, PSU, American, NCA&T, Spellman, Morehouse, Georgetown, the last two years.

But, kids on this board do send their kids to Coolidge. Both lists are good.

Do they? I mean I agree both lists are good but despite Coolidge being one of it not the fastest growing schools in the city I have never seen it come up favorably on DCUM. Maybe occasionally the pre college program. I don't read the site a lot but a whole lot of the Coolidge conversation is how to get your kid out of that pipeline and MacArthur doesn't seem to have that same conversation nearly as much.

[Anonymous]

I know the parents of the kid who went to A&T and they’re furious he went there over Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

JR is losing families with high performing kids too. People are just leaving DCPS in general. College admits are not as good as in the past.
That’s the reality.

You offer no reason to distinguish between MacArthur and JR. Or MacArthur and Walls, for that matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find the MacArthur situation so sad. I happily raised my kids in the city and now I see so, so many families fleeing for the suburbs because they bought in a neighborhood that now feeds to MacArthur. It's tragic. If they opened a new high school, it should have been on par with Jackson Reed

We all believe you 100%. Lol. And tell your friends thanks for the lottery seats!

Why do you want to lottery into a school that is just other students from whatever boundary you are coming from? If all the neighborhood kids leave MacArthur, what's the point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

There is not many kids at the upper bound of distribution if the average is that low.

A few outliers does not define a good school with challenge and rigor.

The average scores will go up do to an increased number of kids on the high end.

There are more high-performing kids in the current 9th grade because that's the first class of Hardy kids to no longer have j-R as an option.

With that said, if DCPS actually wanted to create a successful rather than middling school, they would have given no Hardy students to the option to choose J-R.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know the parents of the kid who went to A&T and they’re furious he went there over Michigan.

I mean, the weather is a lot better and the people are nicer. The alum network is arguably more national and tighter....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like people have never been in the building but have a lot of assumptions about what is happening there. They have open houses, you should go. On their acceptance wall are the likes of Howard, Princeton, American, Penn State, Maryland, Minnesota, NC A&T, and SCAD just to name a few. Kids can be very successful at MacArthur.

I'm not arguing any of those are bad schools, they are great schools. But those are comparable to Coolidge and this board would die before sending their kids to Coolidge. They've had Howard, Hopkins, Bucknell, Pitt, PSU, American, NCA&T, Spellman, Morehouse, Georgetown, the last two years.

But, kids on this board do send their kids to Coolidge. Both lists are good.

Do they? I mean I agree both lists are good but despite Coolidge being one of it not the fastest growing schools in the city I have never seen it come up favorably on DCUM. Maybe occasionally the pre college program. I don't read the site a lot but a whole lot of the Coolidge conversation is how to get your kid out of that pipeline and MacArthur doesn't seem to have that same conversation nearly as much.

People from less favored high schools don't tend to speak up a lot here because posters are super negative towards any high school parent who sends their kid to a school other than JR and possibly Walls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

JR is losing families with high performing kids too. People are just leaving DCPS in general. College admits are not as good as in the past.
That’s the reality.

I think this is true generally. We were really happy at our DCPS for elementary school but left for middle and feel a lot of relief.

I'm glad you made the choice that was right for your family, but I don't understand the need to come back and bash those who have made different choices. Should you be posting in your new school's board. Also, you'll never know what middle school and high school would have looked like in DC schools. All you know is that you have less anxiety now. Which is great, but not a good measure of how the school system would have or would not have served your children if you had stayed.

NP. What right do you have to tell PP what board to go to? He is not bashing anyone and above is absolutely true. So many families have left DCPS and the 1st ones are the ones with the high performing kids who can.

If he lives in DC and wants to go to DC board to see what is going on, np. Just like you can go to the private board and comment.

Instead of being defensive, I suggest you ask why is that and why the system can’t serve all kids equally with its resources instead of just the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

There is not many kids at the upper bound of distribution if the average is that low.

A few outliers does not define a good school with challenge and rigor.

The average scores will go up do to an increased number of kids on the high end.

There are more high-performing kids in the current 9th grade because that's the first class of Hardy kids to no longer have j-R as an option.

With that said, if DCPS actually wanted to create a successful rather than middling school, they would have given no Hardy students to the option to choose J-R.

Have you looked at CAPE scores? Not a lot of high performing kids coming from Hardy esp in math. Deal was the one contributing many mire high performing kids, the majority, when JR was the only feeder for both schools.

Also only about 1/2 Hardy families continued on to MA thus year. I would not consider that a lot of buy in. Scores will not miraculously go way up with such a small sample.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

There is not many kids at the upper bound of distribution if the average is that low.

A few outliers does not define a good school with challenge and rigor.

The average scores will go up do to an increased number of kids on the high end.

There are more high-performing kids in the current 9th grade because that's the first class of Hardy kids to no longer have j-R as an option.

With that said, if DCPS actually wanted to create a successful rather than middling school, they would have given no Hardy students to the option to choose J-R.

Have you looked at CAPE scores? Not a lot of high performing kids coming from Hardy esp in math. Deal was the one contributing many mire high performing kids, the majority, when JR was the only feeder for both schools.

Also only about 1/2 Hardy families continued on to MA thus year. I would not consider that a lot of buy in. Scores will not miraculously go way up with such a small sample.

Hardy and Deal both have >95% of students meeting or exceeding on Geometry CAPE. Both the highest in the city.

For Algebra I, Deal had 92% meeting or exceeding, Hardy 84%. Only other school with higher rate was MacFarland at 86%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet their senior class has gotten into phenomenal colleges/universities. Yep. Must be a terrible place. Full panic. 🙄

No kids at the school but I just looked up the SAT average and it’s abysmal at 964. There is a disconnect here with what you are saying.

What you call a “disconnect” is the simple statistical fact that the average does not define the upper bound of a distribution.

The SAT average at JR is 1083, and everyone knows the top kids there have high scores and attend great colleges. MacArthur is the same.

There is not many kids at the upper bound of distribution if the average is that low.

A few outliers does not define a good school with challenge and rigor.

The average scores will go up do to an increased number of kids on the high end.

There are more high-performing kids in the current 9th grade because that's the first class of Hardy kids to no longer have j-R as an option.

With that said, if DCPS actually wanted to create a successful rather than middling school, they would have given no Hardy students to the option to choose J-R.

Have you looked at CAPE scores? Not a lot of high performing kids coming from Hardy esp in math. Deal was the one contributing many mire high performing kids, the majority, when JR was the only feeder for both schools.

Also only about 1/2 Hardy families continued on to MA thus year. I would not consider that a lot of buy in. Scores will not miraculously go way up with such a small sample.

Hardy and Deal both have >95% of students meeting or exceeding on Geometry CAPE. Both the highest in the city.

For Algebra I, Deal had 92% meeting or exceeding, Hardy 84%. Only other school with higher rate was MacFarland at 86%.

We are talking high performing so look at exceeding only and Geometry or higher. Also take that and actually get absolute numbers of kids.