A prime example of college counseling steering

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to WASP restraint and good taste. It’s pathetic to post “college results” on a public instagram page. It’s sad how far Exeter has fallen.

Agree. I think these IG pages have gone overboard. I would think some schools would decide they are above this.

Then again, the number of parents who spend countless hours scouring these pages is also kind of scary. The amount of lost productivity is off the charts...

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

Maybe they want to go to med or law school &/or play a sport?

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

Maybe they want to go to med or law school &/or play a sport?

The sports recruits are usually labeled - most of the other "lesser" academic schools are athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Hah! Not impressed: no Bucknell, no Holy Cross, no Northeastern.

But then how will they make it to The Street??

Many are called. Few actually make it into the pipeline.

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Is this an example of good or bad steering? Nearly 10 for UChicago?

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Anonymous wrote:The original Phillips in Massachusetts does the same. I had a friend whose son went there and they steered him to UIUC. Oh a girl from DC’s class who attended ended up at UC Davis. I believe she is a Harvard legacy. Wonder if she was even allowed to apply to Harvard if she ended up at Davis.

UIUC is one of the top 3-5 for CS, also v highly ranked for all Engineering so perhaps the student wanted one of those majors - if so, well done

lol no neither the parents nor the student were happy. They expected HYPMS!

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Anonymous wrote:The original Phillips in Massachusetts does the same. I had a friend whose son went there and they steered him to UIUC. Oh a girl from DC’s class who attended ended up at UC Davis. I believe she is a Harvard legacy. Wonder if she was even allowed to apply to Harvard if she ended up at Davis.

Attending a prestigious boarding school to end up at UC Davis is kind of crazy to me. Not that it’s a bad school, but it’s not particularly sought after even for those from ordinary California public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

DP who knows a bit about admissions. It doesn’t depend on ECs. To some extent, they go by who is a legacy at which school. Legacy + private feeder like Exeter = better chances of being admitted to a college. URM, athlete and fac brats are also favored.

Sometimes the very top student at these feeders are forced to apply to a place like Harvard REA even if Stanford is dream school. Then they get into Harvard and are denied Stanford RD. We know a case like this! Not sure why the kid was not allowed to apply to Stanford REA!

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No one going to Stanford or MIT so far? Assuming this is a school where students would not be allowed to continue applying after an early acceptance.

Last year the other Phillips Academy experienced a tragedy after Ivy Day and I can’t help but wonder how the school steered/guided him.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

Maybe they want to go to med or law school &/or play a sport?

The sports recruits are usually labeled - most of the other "lesser" academic schools are athletes.

There were 20 athletic recruits listed on the page.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP — everyone is NOT happy. Parents especially.

why do you say that?

Imagine being the parent of the kid with Ivy-level stats and ECs who was pushed by the counseling team to apply to Dickinson (no offense to Dickinson)

How do you know they have Ivy-level stats and EC? Maybe in the terms of this particular class, they weren't that strong and when compared against their classmates, they wouldn't have gotten in any of the prestigious colleges?

Maybe they want to go to med or law school &/or play a sport?

The sports recruits are usually labeled - most of the other "lesser" academic schools are athletes.

There were 20 athletic recruits listed on the page.

Yes. That is what I was saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't 2 or 3 from same high school a lot if the college's student pop is less than 10k?

It's Exeter. They do pretty well on matriculations.

[Anonymous]

my kid is at Andover. I dont know about steering, but the kids are very aware early on of the third of the class who already know where they're applying. bcs of legacy. (the days of really wanting yale when youre a double legacy at Princeton are over. kids are savvier now. the legacy kids apply to that school without a moments hesitation).

So with legacy, hooks, recruits, QB and Posse ranks in .. the rest of the sids find the open path and take it.

i'm saying they pretty much sort themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Andover. I dont know about steering, but the kids are very aware early on of the third of the class who already know where they're applying. bcs of legacy. (the days of really wanting yale when youre a double legacy at Princeton are over. kids are savvier now. the legacy kids apply to that school without a moments hesitation).

So with legacy, hooks, recruits, QB and Posse ranks in .. the rest of the sids find the open path and take it.

i'm saying they pretty much sort themselves.

Yeah but the Harvard legacy at Davis is something! And the unhooked ORM applying to Harvard REA when she wanted Stanford where she was denied RD. Clearly there is communications between school and colleges.