NIH Study regarding HRT and BReast cancer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

There are other ways to handle the symptoms.

If it were that easy, HRT wouldn't be this popular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows it, what doctors are saying it’s safe? Quite the opposite most doctors are super scared to prescribe which is why they have had a proliferation of these new menopause private equity firms that will sell online to people. Otherwise everyone would get the prescription from their doctors.

My prescribing doctor is a long-term partner and part of one of the highest rated women’s health in NYC. Her appointments are minimally 45 min, she takes labs, she checks in, she takes feedback. Not the fly by night online hucksterism you keep screaming about. Sorry!

And she informed you of the breast cancer risk, right?

No, she told me to pick my dosage and tossed in a magnum of champagne. That’s how it generally goes, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

There are other ways to handle the symptoms.

Great, why don't you tell us, since you seem to be an expert?

Given that people claim basically everything is a menopause symptom, it’s not possible to list everything unless you tell me the specific one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - can you please share the name?

Unfortunately she’s not taking new patients.
Look here and pick one you like:
https://portal.menopause.org/NAMS/NAMS/Directory/Menopause-Practitioner.aspx

Lol. Right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

There are other ways to handle the symptoms.

If it were that easy, HRT wouldn't be this popular.

Try an 8 ounce glass of soy milk once a day, adding a meal with tofu on the days where you are really feeling it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

There are other ways to handle the symptoms.

Great, why don't you tell us, since you seem to be an expert?

Given that people claim basically everything is a menopause symptom, it’s not possible to list everything unless you tell me the specific one.

--joint pain/stiffness
--skin problems - dryness, itching, rashes - have tried all types of lotions of course
--dry eyes
--terrible fatigue even after 8 hours of sleep
--poor concentration/memory affecting work
--osteopenia - calcium supplements make me constipated, ugh!
--cholesterol - had plaque on a calcium scan

I already take: an SSRI, Magnesium supplement, Crestor, and cyclosporine (for dry eye).

[Anonymous]

0.4% lol WTF kind of garbage conclusion is that and estrogen apparently lowers your risk LOL - scientist

[Anonymous]

The original women's study was very, very flawed. Unlike most science, it was not replicated and was stopped before the total pre-planed data capture was complete. You can read all about it and the criticism of that study goes back about 30 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Stay on it. That flawed study being stopped early and the resulting publications was meant to scare you and cause pain and discomfort to women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Stay on it. That flawed study being stopped early and the resulting publications was meant to scare you and cause pain and discomfort to women.

Stop lying. The study is actually ongoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

There are other ways to handle the symptoms.

Great, why don't you tell us, since you seem to be an expert?

Given that people claim basically everything is a menopause symptom, it’s not possible to list everything unless you tell me the specific one.

--joint pain/stiffness
--skin problems - dryness, itching, rashes - have tried all types of lotions of course
--dry eyes
--terrible fatigue even after 8 hours of sleep
--poor concentration/memory affecting work
--osteopenia - calcium supplements make me constipated, ugh!
--cholesterol - had plaque on a calcium scan

I already take: an SSRI, Magnesium supplement, Crestor, and cyclosporine (for dry eye).

Exercise, eyedrops and warm compresses, CBT and acceptance. Maybe a statin.

The problem is also that other than osteopenia, the evidence for HRT helping any of those listed conditions is extremely thin. I’m sure there is a placebo effect though. But at the end of the day, the fatigue of chemo and radiation would be a hell of a lot worse.

[Anonymous]

Somebody asked for a citation. For those of you skeptical of this administration, please let me assure you that women's health advocates have been trying to reverse this for decades.

Here's the money shot:
Women have used HRT products for decades to relieve menopausal symptoms. However, their use plummeted in the early 2000s when the FDA applied boxed warnings following a Women’s Health Initiative study that found a statistically non-significant increase in the risk of breast cancer diagnosis.

Here's think HHS link:
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/hhs-advances-womens-health-removes-misleading-fda-warnings-hormone-replacement-therapy

Here's a users guide from a well regarded women's health nonprofit.
https://swhr.org/resources/menopause-preparedness-toolkit-a-womans-empowerment-guide/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Stay on it. That flawed study being stopped early and the resulting publications was meant to scare you and cause pain and discomfort to women.

Stop lying. The study is actually ongoing.

Obtuse. That part of the study stopped in the early 2000s and you either know it and don't care or don't know which makes every thing you say suspect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Your gyn sounds pretty irresponsible. Whatever symptoms you have, breast cancer treatment symptoms would be MUCH worse. You should visit a GP and psychiatrist to explore other treatments. There are other options out there for mental health and insomnia and hot flashes.

I don't think she's irresponsible. A few weeks of HRT isn't going to give anyone breast cancer. If it didn't help symptoms, it would be a moot point. Since it does, then it comes down to a risk-reward equation.

Np - my menopause symptoms would need to be very severe and impacting my quality of life to take that risk. I’ve just completed my 5th round of chemo with radiation on the horizon.

What’s the point of a few weeks of HRT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very torn honestly. My gyn suggested I try HRT even though I am high risk for BC (mother had it in her 50's). She said, try it for 2 months and see how you feel, a few weeks on anything won't give you breast cancer. I've been on it for 3 weeks and I feel FANTASTIC (except for the sore boobs, but it's tolerable). Now I have to decide whether to live with the risk, or the discomfort of meno. Am 54 btw, 2 years post-meno.

Stay on it. That flawed study being stopped early and the resulting publications was meant to scare you and cause pain and discomfort to women.

Stop lying. The study is actually ongoing.

Obtuse. That part of the study stopped in the early 2000s and you either know it and don't care or don't know which makes every thing you say suspect.

They’re still analyzing the data and coming up with new conclusions. And there are plenty of other studies on HRT. Of all the dumb parts of this discussion, claiming that there is some kind of conspiracy theory to hurt women is the dumbest.