Influence of sports on the admissions process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? For many of these kids, the role that they play in sports is a big part of their personal qualities. I think it's great and adds a lot to the school.

[Anonymous]

At what point will we realize ….and ACCEPT that some students are good at athletics…. At academics…. At art …. Etc. why do we have to make everyone be academically perfect? We’re all different…and that should be ok. Some people are better …. Significantly better at xyz… and that’s ok. We, I suppose, all have god given gifts and talents. When and how can we express them without being judged?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At what point will we realize ….and ACCEPT that some students are good at athletics…. At academics…. At art …. Etc. why do we have to make everyone be academically perfect? We’re all different…and that should be ok. Some people are better …. Significantly better at xyz… and that’s ok. We, I suppose, all have god given gifts and talents. When and how can we express them without being judged?!

Exactly. And the best independent schools have a mix of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Maybe, but it’s very few that get in that way and those kids can do the work in addition to helping the schools athletics.

No, it isn't. There are plenty of very smart and driven kids in the classroom who also work hard and have cultivates skills in other venues including sports. It isn't one or the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

When you run your own school, you can set the standards however you like. For schools like the "big 3" the kids getting in have demonstrated the academic ability AND have some other talents that contribute to the school community. The idea that you assume that it is binary is sad.

Welcome to America! That is why they get kids who don't know how know how to do simple math in college, only if they put even half of their passion in academics as they did in sports.

you misconstrued my post. I asserted based on my firsthand knowledge, that being smart and being talented in sports or other pursuits, isn't binary. The schools are not going to take kids who won't have some level of success in the classroom just to use them for sports. It just doesn't work like that anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

What you are not getting...the kids being admitted are kind, eager to learn, help others, are good students AND good musicians/actors/athletes. It isn't an either/or.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

What you are not getting...the kids being admitted are kind, eager to learn, help others, are good students AND good musicians/actors/athletes. It isn't an either/or.

And have parents who are VIPs or legacies

[Anonymous]

The reality is that the best way to get into Ivy League schools from this area is to athletic recruits. Which encourages school to recruit high level athletes since a major indicator of their value to prospective families is their college placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the best way to get into Ivy League schools from this area is to athletic recruits. Which encourages school to recruit high level athletes since a major indicator of their value to prospective families is their college placement.

Apologies for my terrible grammar but hopefully you get the idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the best way to get into Ivy League schools from this area is to athletic recruits. Which encourages school to recruit high level athletes since a major indicator of their value to prospective families is their college placement.

Apologies for my terrible grammar but hopefully you get the idea.

This is not remotely true. A very low percentage of kids that from these schools that go to ivies are athletes