Influence of sports on the admissions process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Oh boy, the college process is really gonna frost your pumpkin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Maybe, but it’s very few that get in that way and those kids can do the work in addition to helping the schools athletics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

When you run your own school, you can set the standards however you like. For schools like the "big 3" the kids getting in have demonstrated the academic ability AND have some other talents that contribute to the school community. The idea that you assume that it is binary is sad.

Welcome to America! That is why they get kids who don't know how know how to do simple math in college, only if they put even half of their passion in academics as they did in sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

How is being a talented athlete different from being a talented musician?

It is different. Sports make a ton of money. Classical music and Jazz don't. Welcome to America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 things drive this:

1)they're looking to full certain rosters to be competitive and keep up school spirit for students and alums (and donations from the later. this is pretty much just applied to boys in football and basketball.

2)they're look for kids who they can get into college as athletic recruits. this is where cross country and most girl athletes come into play


the reality is that even the top high schools will only get a small handful of kids into elite colleges on grades alone. they can get another half dozen or dozen in based on sports recruiting. they need these recruits to stay relevant to the next generation of parents who will come along and say "oh my, this school sent 5 kids to Yale, let me get in line to pay my $60k!"

I have just attended an admission event where the head of school said that they identify D1 athletes on the college list so that parents and prospective parents can see where the non-athletes go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People often talk about how you need a hook for Big 3 admissions for high school. One of the ones always mentioned is sports. Can someone provide any insight as to how sports help the 9th grade admissions process? Does merely playing sports at the middle school level competitively help in admissions when people talk about sports being a hook? Or is there a specific skill level and sport that it has to be? For example, my daughter is a pretty competitive runner, xc and the mile, at the private middle school meets, but not state level (if that exists) and not at the travel level (does that exist for running?)

Running and track are one of the easier sports to measure performance and rankings. If you have her times from various meets, a google search can help you see what the top times for those distances are at different age groups. If she is close to the top then you probably have a hook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

Tell me you are applying to K without telling me you’re applying to K.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

Tell me you are applying to K without telling me you’re applying to K.

Nono, you are wrong. We use these qualities to evaluate PhD student admission, where finally sports and whether the parents went an Ivy isn’t a factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

Tell me you are applying to K without telling me you’re applying to K.

lol, exactly. As if a kid that is a good athlete can't be any of those things.

I went to a top 15 school and that had a good D3 sports program. Many of the kids wouldn't have gotten into the school but for athletics. Want to know what most of those kids are now - Doctors, Lawyers, CEO of a top 50 company. Some donate big dollars back to the school. That's why schools do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

Why? And what are the personal qualities you think are worthy?

Like curious, kind, eager to learn and help others? Not just running super fast.

Tell me you are applying to K without telling me you’re applying to K.

lol, exactly. As if a kid that is a good athlete can't be any of those things.

I went to a top 15 school and that had a good D3 sports program. Many of the kids wouldn't have gotten into the school but for athletics. Want to know what most of those kids are now - Doctors, Lawyers, CEO of a top 50 company. Some donate big dollars back to the school. That's why schools do this.

lawyers, CEOs, doctors... that says it all. Lawyers do not need much brain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are getting recruited for 9th grade based on their sports abilities. It infuriates me. They should be getting in based on their academic record or personal qualities, period.

College is exactly the same. High test scores are a dime a dozen.

This. Exactly. Kids with high test scores are a dime a dozen. So what. What makes them different and will further expand the reach of the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And you know who schools value the most? Those who are good enough both athletically AND academically.

Agreed! Even better if they are talented athletically, academically, and artistically!