| AP AB is not the highest rigor. That's just a fact, and many colleges ding students for this when coming from competitive, overly represented HSs. It would not be an auto-reject, but they need something else compelling. |
DP. In our school profile, Calculus AB is listed as the highest rigor, but kids are taking all the way up to Multivariable Calculus and/or linear algebra. This allows counselor to still mark AB kids as highest rigor. |
Calc AB is lower rigor than a one semester college Calc I class, taught over a full year. At the very least you should get a 5 on the test. |
Nope. No one with any sense of reality and knowledge of college admissions thinks calc AB is just fine for applying to T15 schools for STEM. You are the only one that seems to think “because their website says..” means anything. It is a disadvantage, especially given the further details given by OP |
if that is the case, that most are BC or higher, then yours is average-to-below in rigor and will likely go where the average to below kids go, barring a big hook. Our school is about 40% BC or higher, not a majority. The AB in 12th kids are another 30%. The AB kids can get in to UVA in state but usually do not unless they have super high gpa and every other subject area top rigor, and not going for a stem major. UVA admits from the BC or higher group 80% of the time. The ivies almost exclusively admit from the MVC group, the ones with BC as juniors, for unhooked kids. The AB kids end up at VT(not engineering), JMU, Tenn, Auburn, Clemson. At the school down the road less than 15% take BC, there is no MVC, and UVA admits the AB kids all the time. They have less going to Ivies, but have had some success with ED other top 10s and it has been AB kids some of the time. Most of the ABs there go to UVA, VT, WM, and LACs are big at that high school: colby, dickinson, UofR for AB kids. |
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The counselor can mark whatever box they want, or not do the box and just write a few sentences describing relative rigor, which is what our school CC does. Regardless, the AOs are not fooled: when they see BC and MVC is offered they know AB is not really "highest rigor" |
Top 15 for STEM may be less of a problem especially if it's a liberal arts focused school. But Top 5 Engineering School would be a problem with just AB especially if your school offered BC and your student didn't take it. |
harsh but factual |
If the higher ranking ones HYPMS did not admit you, mostly likely it's not because OP didn't take BC. They want a lot more than a Calculus course. It's the lower ranking ones that care about BC a lot more, Caltech, JHU, Penn, Cornell. |
Prioritize health OP. Whether or not the rigor box is checked, she in fact does not have highest rigor and is unlikely to be seriously considered for whichever colleges the top 10-25% of the school goes to. Aim for schools that will fit her need for balance. ivy/T20 and maybe down to T50 could be terrible fits depending on her high school and what the medical situation is. |
Regardless of OP situation for which we have incomplete information, math requirements for Biology and Neuroscience are different than typical STEM likes math major. You just need one semester of calculus and AB is sufficient. It’s not a disadvantage if the rest of the coursework and extracurriculars align with the intended major. I don’t know why you’re so stuck on math level, colleges don’t sort their students based of who got to the most advanced math class. Definitely not for Biology majors. |
That's such a tired argument. Then why do math and physics majors need to take history and English classes in hs? Just because some majors in college have lower requirements doesn't mean that smart kids shouldn't be taking every hard class they can in hs. And since the internet exists, I'd argue that the smart kids should in fact be learning at a higher level than even those highest rigor math, science, and social science courses. |
| We know of multiple kids from our FCPS public who have gotten into Ivys with "just" calc AB. Same with UVA. Totally a DCUM myth that the student is doomed if they "only" get to calc AB. Funny to see this play out every year - I have gone through this rodeo several times. Each of my kids has "only" gotten to calc AB and multiple kids from their math class go on to the kinds of schools this board drools over. |
Legacy, sports, female DEI, and URM. I know many in Fairfax who did way more than that with very high SAT scores and got rejected. I also know a few that were in those categories named above and got in. |