16 yo dies after extensive Chat GPT interactions on how to commit suicide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the parents should not have let him purchase a subscription to ChatGPT. Like did they know nothing about it?

How old are your kids? My teens have summer jobs, and summer jobs mean bank accounts, which come with debit cards. So.... Good luck monitoring all their purchases.

My kid's debit card, checking account, and venmo are all linked to mine and I get notifications if she spends anything. Might be useful to you.

Monitoring a teen is a full-time job.

[Anonymous]

There is no safety on the internet. There never has been, there never will be. There is no possible way to put it on rails. From the beginning, the open internet had easy access to suicide DIY, pro-anorexia "thinsperation", info on any drug you could imagine (and often illegal access to same), bombmaking instructions... Rotten.com, anyone?

This is a horrible story about an awful thing that happened, and there's literally no way to prevent it. ChatGPT and other LLMs "learn" now. We've already lost control, not that we ever really had much of it. The solution will not come from the corporations who created this tech. This isn't preventable. Sorry. I know a lot of y'all want to chime in with how it could never happen to you because you're a better parent, but you're full of shit. The only reasonable measure is limiting unsupervised access to technology, and it's not much of a defense. Your kid's group chat has eleventy-three questionable things in it right now, most of which you might not even register as issues due to the language they use sometimes. You need to hover to know, and their whole goal is keeping you at a distance.

Your best bet is the thing that's hardest to make with a teen: connection based on trust. There just isn't enough time in a working parent's life to stay deeply connected to a teen, and their whole evolutionary process is pushing them to be independent and go their own way. Staying connected is a full-time job.

[Anonymous]

Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the parents should not have let him purchase a subscription to ChatGPT. Like did they know nothing about it?

How old are your kids? My teens have summer jobs, and summer jobs mean bank accounts, which come with debit cards. So.... Good luck monitoring all their purchases.

My kid's debit card, checking account, and venmo are all linked to mine and I get notifications if she spends anything. Might be useful to you.

Monitoring a teen is a full-time job.

You act like they can’t get money from a friend or something or they can’t take money out for a movie and then not go. You can’t out wit a teenager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no safety on the internet. There never has been, there never will be. There is no possible way to put it on rails. From the beginning, the open internet had easy access to suicide DIY, pro-anorexia "thinsperation", info on any drug you could imagine (and often illegal access to same), bombmaking instructions... Rotten.com, anyone?

This is a horrible story about an awful thing that happened, and there's literally no way to prevent it. ChatGPT and other LLMs "learn" now. We've already lost control, not that we ever really had much of it. The solution will not come from the corporations who created this tech. This isn't preventable. Sorry. I know a lot of y'all want to chime in with how it could never happen to you because you're a better parent, but you're full of shit. The only reasonable measure is limiting unsupervised access to technology, and it's not much of a defense. Your kid's group chat has eleventy-three questionable things in it right now, most of which you might not even register as issues due to the language they use sometimes. You need to hover to know, and their whole goal is keeping you at a distance.

Your best bet is the thing that's hardest to make with a teen: connection based on trust. There just isn't enough time in a working parent's life to stay deeply connected to a teen, and their whole evolutionary process is pushing them to be independent and go their own way. Staying connected is a full-time job.

Virginia tried to restrict minors from accessing porn. Posters here are still complaining about it. Imagine if Virginia tried to regulate access to ChatGPT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the parents should not have let him purchase a subscription to ChatGPT. Like did they know nothing about it?

How old are your kids? My teens have summer jobs, and summer jobs mean bank accounts, which come with debit cards. So.... Good luck monitoring all their purchases.

Minors need a custodian for a bank account. You can monitor all their spending.

ChatGPT is free.

If my kid takes out $20 for chipotle but never gets chipotle well I’ll never know.

The Internet is also free. I remember a few decades ago when people wanted to restrict the Internet to adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

This is why people choose homeschool and private, clearly the better option to suicide by computer. PARENT YOUR F’ING CHILDREN!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

This is why people choose homeschool and private, clearly the better option to suicide by computer. PARENT YOUR F’ING CHILDREN!!

Oh honey, you clearly don't read. This kid was being schooled at home due to health issues. But go ahead and find something else to blame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

This is why people choose homeschool and private, clearly the better option to suicide by computer. PARENT YOUR F’ING CHILDREN!!

WTF does this have to do with public school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

This is why people choose homeschool and private, clearly the better option to suicide by computer. PARENT YOUR F’ING CHILDREN!!

WTF does this have to do with public school?

Some posters are just dumb and are looking to blame something, anything that doesn't have to do with their own choices, because they're "perfect" parents and this could never happen to them.

[Anonymous]

Didn't Trumpster just put in his big sh$tty bill that there is to be no regulation on AI? Wouldn't it be considered "woke" to demand a computer monitor what you are doing to protect you from yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn't Trumpster just put in his big sh$tty bill that there is to be no regulation on AI? Wouldn't it be considered "woke" to demand a computer monitor what you are doing to protect you from yourself?

Yup. For 10 years. AI will evolve in ways you can not even fathom, and there will be nothing in place to protect your kids (unlike in Europe where privacy and child safety are tightly regulated). Elections have consequences MAGAs. Half the country chose this.

[Anonymous]

I asked AI a question about persistence of mRNA-induced spike protein and it refused to answer. But a child asking about suicide methods is a-OK. What a sick world we live in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn off the screens and RAISE YOUR F’ ING CHILDREN!!!

Sorry, you can’t all-caps this particular genie back into the bottle.

This is why people choose homeschool and private, clearly the better option to suicide by computer. PARENT YOUR F’ING CHILDREN!!

Read the article. This kid was in a homeschool program. It wasn’t beneficial and probably exacerbated the problem.