You'll never guess who the star witness against Kilmar Abrego Garcia is...

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


There’s a lie in the indictment. The police report says the opposite what the DOJ claims was said during the traffic stop.

The government claims that he was making 4 round trips per week between Texas and Maryland. That’s 1,400 miles each way, for a total of 11,000+ miles. They said he did this with his kids in the car.

The government claims he was smuggling a minor, when it’s a 7 with a dash in the middle, not a 1 in his birth year.

I have no idea how they’re going to do in front of a jury. All of this is because they didn't want to admit their mistake and bring him back for due process. What an absolute waste of resources for political purpose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So will he be dismissed before he could even testify due his lack of credibility? I am no judge but I would not consider this credible info if I were a jurist.


No. Judges don’t decide beforehand which witnesses the jury is allowed to believe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


A Grand Jury will indict anyone for anything. It's not a trial. No defense witnesses. It's a sham, really.

+1 The AUSA who was in charge of the criminal division in this DOJ office resigned rather than present this indictment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


There’s a lie in the indictment. The police report says the opposite what the DOJ claims was said during the traffic stop.

The government claims that he was making 4 round trips per week between Texas and Maryland. That’s 1,400 miles each way, for a total of 11,000+ miles. They said he did this with his kids in the car.

The government claims he was smuggling a minor, when it’s a 7 with a dash in the middle, not a 1 in his birth year.

I have no idea how they’re going to do in front of a jury. All of this is because they didn't want to admit their mistake and bring him back for due process. What an absolute waste of resources for political purpose.


The math doesn’t pencil out on that. 11,000 miles a week would require 7.6 days of driving with nonstop (at 60 miles per hour). There would be no bathroom breaks, meal breaks or sleeping. He must be superhuman if he can do that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


There’s a lie in the indictment. The police report says the opposite what the DOJ claims was said during the traffic stop.

The government claims that he was making 4 round trips per week between Texas and Maryland. That’s 1,400 miles each way, for a total of 11,000+ miles. They said he did this with his kids in the car.

The government claims he was smuggling a minor, when it’s a 7 with a dash in the middle, not a 1 in his birth year.

I have no idea how they’re going to do in front of a jury. All of this is because they didn't want to admit their mistake and bring him back for due process. What an absolute waste of resources for political purpose.


The math doesn’t pencil out on that. 11,000 miles a week would require 7.6 days of driving with nonstop (at 60 miles per hour). There would be no bathroom breaks, meal breaks or sleeping. He must be superhuman if he can do that.
just double checked your claim. The indictment says that he made more than 100 trips from 2016-2025. So that would only be around 1 trip a month. I don’t know if there is evidence to actually support this claim, but a jury might find one trip a month as plausible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So will he be dismissed before he could even testify due his lack of credibility? I am no judge but I would not consider this credible info if I were a jurist.
They do this type of stuff all the time with MOB witnesses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So will he be dismissed before he could even testify due his lack of credibility? I am no judge but I would not consider this credible info if I were a jurist.
They do this type of stuff all the time with MOB witnesses.


They do this stuff all the time in all types of cases. Spend a day sitting in a criminal trial in DC. The government’s witnesses are almost always rough people. That’s how it works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So will he be dismissed before he could even testify due his lack of credibility? I am no judge but I would not consider this credible info if I were a jurist.
They do this type of stuff all the time with MOB witnesses.


They do this stuff all the time in all types of cases. Spend a day sitting in a criminal trial in DC. The government’s witnesses are almost always rough people. That’s how it works.


And, not just in DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


There’s a lie in the indictment. The police report says the opposite what the DOJ claims was said during the traffic stop.

The government claims that he was making 4 round trips per week between Texas and Maryland. That’s 1,400 miles each way, for a total of 11,000+ miles. They said he did this with his kids in the car.

The government claims he was smuggling a minor, when it’s a 7 with a dash in the middle, not a 1 in his birth year.

I have no idea how they’re going to do in front of a jury. All of this is because they didn't want to admit their mistake and bring him back for due process. What an absolute waste of resources for political purpose.


The math doesn’t pencil out on that. 11,000 miles a week would require 7.6 days of driving with nonstop (at 60 miles per hour). There would be no bathroom breaks, meal breaks or sleeping. He must be superhuman if he can do that.
just double checked your claim. The indictment says that he made more than 100 trips from 2016-2025. So that would only be around 1 trip a month. I don’t know if there is evidence to actually support this claim, but a jury might find one trip a month as plausible.


This is what lawyers claimed in court in the bail hearing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Where has any of that been proven? I could make up stuff about you. Make sure it went viral by paying social media companies to alter algorithms, and boom everyone believes me. For what?


Didn't a Fed grand jury indict him? Seems like the charges are quite plausible. It's pretty clear you are desperate for a different kind of narrative.


There’s a lie in the indictment. The police report says the opposite what the DOJ claims was said during the traffic stop.

The government claims that he was making 4 round trips per week between Texas and Maryland. That’s 1,400 miles each way, for a total of 11,000+ miles. They said he did this with his kids in the car.

The government claims he was smuggling a minor, when it’s a 7 with a dash in the middle, not a 1 in his birth year.

I have no idea how they’re going to do in front of a jury. All of this is because they didn't want to admit their mistake and bring him back for due process. What an absolute waste of resources for political purpose.


The math doesn’t pencil out on that. 11,000 miles a week would require 7.6 days of driving with nonstop (at 60 miles per hour). There would be no bathroom breaks, meal breaks or sleeping. He must be superhuman if he can do that.


The judge had a similar reaction.
Anonymous
KILMAR ABREGO-GARCIA SUES TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, KRISTI NOEM, BONDI AND RUBIO.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/legal-filing-details-graphic-torture-235503028.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:KILMAR ABREGO-GARCIA SUES TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, KRISTI NOEM, BONDI AND RUBIO.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/legal-filing-details-graphic-torture-235503028.html


Thanks for posting, PP. Everyone should read this. I feel so bad for others who were sent to CECOT who were not criminals, like the gay makeup artist and the young soccer coach with the autism tatoo.

Sadly, the article reads like MAGA porn due to the terrible prison conditions that Abrego Garcia was subjected to at CECOT--they will literally get off on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


DOJ never proved any MS-13 connection. They figured that since he's Salvadoran, they could say that and everybody would believe it without any need for evidence.
Anonymous
I've been watching The Shield on TUBI.
Amazing how current events show up on there. They have gang 1-9ers with representative tattoos.
They also use the term 'chole' which is Garcia's reported rank when he was picked up by police in a murder investigation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean, what is wrong with you people.

Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member, is he not? He was pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens, was he not?

Not to say this other guy is a prize himself, as he clearly is not. But save your high righteousness for actual cases of innocent people, not a slime like Abrego Garcia.

It makes y'all look crazy.


Is he an MS-13 gang member? Beats me, I don’t have any direct knowledge of MS-13, do you? Was he pulled over with a car full of illegal aliens? I have no idea, because I wasn’t there, were you?

These are the sorts of questions that are answered in trials, because in America you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. There has been no trial and nothing has been proven, and yet America (the land of the free) is ready to sentence him to life in prison or possibly death, without due process, based on the word of an administration that already admitted his first deportation was a mistake (and the person who admitted the mistake got in trouble for not hiding the truth).

Moreover, when the President has talked about terminating the constitution, revoking citizenship, deporting citizens, and generally threatening everyone who disagrees with him, AND it is an open question rather he will comply with all Supreme Court orders, even those that stop him from something he might actually care about, AND the Supreme Court has shown blatant partisanship to the point of declaring that the President is above the law — every American needs to be demanding due process. If you don’t want to bother for those who are currently accused, then due it out of self-preservation, because once the rule of law is gone, NOBODY is safe. If you look at history, even those who ride a dictator’s coattails often find themself at risk when he starts looking around for any possible threats, both real and the imaginary product of his own paranoia.
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