Breaking: Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

- Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
- Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
- Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
- United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
- Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
- Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
- Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/southern-baptist-obergefell-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Ahhhh, the Christians, Muslims, and Jews bringing so much love and peace to the world. Thank god for religion.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

- Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
- Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
- Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
- United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
- Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
- Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
- Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


You're confusing institutional drift with biblical Christianity. Just because a group calls itself a church or denomination doesn’t mean it’s truly Christian in the historic, biblical sense. The real question is whether it aligns with Scripture — and for the groups you listed, the answer is no.

Let’s be clear: the real, mainstream branches of Christianity — the ones that represent the overwhelming majority of Christians worldwide — all affirm that marriage is between one man and one woman. This has never been controversial in biblical Christianity. These include:

  • Roman Catholic Church

  • Eastern Orthodox Church

  • Southern Baptist Convention (SBC)

  • Presbyterian Church in America (PCA)

  • Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS)

  • Anglican Church in North America (ACNA)

  • Global Methodist Church (GMC)

  • Evangelical churches like Assemblies of God, Calvary Chapel, Evangelical Free, etc.


  • All of these churches reject same-sex marriage based on clear, consistent biblical teaching (Genesis 2, Matthew 19, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, etc.). They follow the Bible as their authority and have done so for centuries.

    Now let’s take a closer look at the list of so-called “Christian denominations” that support gay marriage. What people often fail to mention is that every one of these groups is either a liberal breakaway from a historic church or not biblically Christian at all.

  • Episcopal Church (USA): A liberal offshoot of Anglicanism. It caused a major global split, and most Anglicans around the world no longer recognize it. Faithful Anglicans formed the ACNA to remain true to Scripture.

  • Presbyterian Church (USA): Not the same as the PCA. PCUSA has been bleeding members for years due to its abandonment of biblical teaching, especially on sexuality.

  • Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): A liberal wing of Lutheranism. The LCMS and WELS remain faithful to Scripture and do not support gay marriage.

  • United Church of Christ (UCC): Long ago abandoned biblical orthodoxy. Denies the inerrancy of Scripture, supports universalism, and aligns more with culture than with the Bible.

  • Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Was founded specifically to affirm homosexuality. It was never rooted in orthodox Christian belief and does not represent historic Christianity.

  • Quakers (liberal branches): Theologically all over the place. Many liberal Quaker meetings don’t even hold to the Bible as authoritative or affirm the core doctrines of Christianity.

  • Unitarian Universalist Association: This is not a Christian church. It denies the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the authority of the Bible. It’s a pluralistic belief system, not Christianity.


  • So yes, some liberal groups exist that call themselves Christian and support gay marriage. But they are not representative of biblical Christianity — either because they broke off from it or never followed it to begin with.

    The main point here is this: If you're surprised or outraged that the Southern Baptist Convention or other Bible-based churches oppose gay marriage, that’s not unusual or extreme — that’s the norm. This has been the consistent Christian view across nearly every branch of Christianity for over 2,000 years. The real anomaly is the small number of denominations that caved to cultural pressure. The vast majority of Christians around the world and throughout history have stood by the Bible’s teaching on marriage — and still do.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    You're confusing institutional drift with biblical Christianity. Just because a group calls itself a church or denomination doesn’t mean it’s truly Christian in the historic, biblical sense. The real question is whether it aligns with Scripture — and for the groups you listed, the answer is no.

    Let’s be clear: the real, mainstream branches of Christianity — the ones that represent the overwhelming majority of Christians worldwide — all affirm that marriage is between one man and one woman. This has never been controversial in biblical Christianity. These include:

  • Roman Catholic Church

  • Eastern Orthodox Church

  • Southern Baptist Convention (SBC)

  • Presbyterian Church in America (PCA)

  • Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS)

  • Anglican Church in North America (ACNA)

  • Global Methodist Church (GMC)

  • Evangelical churches like Assemblies of God, Calvary Chapel, Evangelical Free, etc.


  • All of these churches reject same-sex marriage based on clear, consistent biblical teaching (Genesis 2, Matthew 19, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, etc.). They follow the Bible as their authority and have done so for centuries.

    Now let’s take a closer look at the list of so-called “Christian denominations” that support gay marriage. What people often fail to mention is that every one of these groups is either a liberal breakaway from a historic church or not biblically Christian at all.

  • Episcopal Church (USA): A liberal offshoot of Anglicanism. It caused a major global split, and most Anglicans around the world no longer recognize it. Faithful Anglicans formed the ACNA to remain true to Scripture.

  • Presbyterian Church (USA): Not the same as the PCA. PCUSA has been bleeding members for years due to its abandonment of biblical teaching, especially on sexuality.

  • Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): A liberal wing of Lutheranism. The LCMS and WELS remain faithful to Scripture and do not support gay marriage.

  • United Church of Christ (UCC): Long ago abandoned biblical orthodoxy. Denies the inerrancy of Scripture, supports universalism, and aligns more with culture than with the Bible.

  • Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Was founded specifically to affirm homosexuality. It was never rooted in orthodox Christian belief and does not represent historic Christianity.

  • Quakers (liberal branches): Theologically all over the place. Many liberal Quaker meetings don’t even hold to the Bible as authoritative or affirm the core doctrines of Christianity.

  • Unitarian Universalist Association: This is not a Christian church. It denies the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the authority of the Bible. It’s a pluralistic belief system, not Christianity.


  • So yes, some liberal groups exist that call themselves Christian and support gay marriage. But they are not representative of biblical Christianity — either because they broke off from it or never followed it to begin with.

    The main point here is this: If you're surprised or outraged that the Southern Baptist Convention or other Bible-based churches oppose gay marriage, that’s not unusual or extreme — that’s the norm. This has been the consistent Christian view across nearly every branch of Christianity for over 2,000 years. The real anomaly is the small number of denominations that caved to cultural pressure. The vast majority of Christians around the world and throughout history have stood by the Bible’s teaching on marriage — and still do.


    Who do you think you are to judge the validity of other people’s religious affiliation? We can just as easily say that you are not a “real” christian and make up a bunch of reasons why.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.


    I can assure you Presbyterians are Christians.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    You're confusing institutional drift with biblical Christianity. Just because a group calls itself a church or denomination doesn’t mean it’s truly Christian in the historic, biblical sense. The real question is whether it aligns with Scripture — and for the groups you listed, the answer is no.

    Let’s be clear: the real, mainstream branches of Christianity — the ones that represent the overwhelming majority of Christians worldwide — all affirm that marriage is between one man and one woman. This has never been controversial in biblical Christianity. These include:

  • Roman Catholic Church

  • Eastern Orthodox Church

  • Southern Baptist Convention (SBC)

  • Presbyterian Church in America (PCA)

  • Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS)

  • Anglican Church in North America (ACNA)

  • Global Methodist Church (GMC)

  • Evangelical churches like Assemblies of God, Calvary Chapel, Evangelical Free, etc.


  • All of these churches reject same-sex marriage based on clear, consistent biblical teaching (Genesis 2, Matthew 19, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, etc.). They follow the Bible as their authority and have done so for centuries.

    Now let’s take a closer look at the list of so-called “Christian denominations” that support gay marriage. What people often fail to mention is that every one of these groups is either a liberal breakaway from a historic church or not biblically Christian at all.

  • Episcopal Church (USA): A liberal offshoot of Anglicanism. It caused a major global split, and most Anglicans around the world no longer recognize it. Faithful Anglicans formed the ACNA to remain true to Scripture.

  • Presbyterian Church (USA): Not the same as the PCA. PCUSA has been bleeding members for years due to its abandonment of biblical teaching, especially on sexuality.

  • Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): A liberal wing of Lutheranism. The LCMS and WELS remain faithful to Scripture and do not support gay marriage.

  • United Church of Christ (UCC): Long ago abandoned biblical orthodoxy. Denies the inerrancy of Scripture, supports universalism, and aligns more with culture than with the Bible.

  • Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Was founded specifically to affirm homosexuality. It was never rooted in orthodox Christian belief and does not represent historic Christianity.

  • Quakers (liberal branches): Theologically all over the place. Many liberal Quaker meetings don’t even hold to the Bible as authoritative or affirm the core doctrines of Christianity.

  • Unitarian Universalist Association: This is not a Christian church. It denies the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the authority of the Bible. It’s a pluralistic belief system, not Christianity.


  • So yes, some liberal groups exist that call themselves Christian and support gay marriage. But they are not representative of biblical Christianity — either because they broke off from it or never followed it to begin with.

    The main point here is this: If you're surprised or outraged that the Southern Baptist Convention or other Bible-based churches oppose gay marriage, that’s not unusual or extreme — that’s the norm. This has been the consistent Christian view across nearly every branch of Christianity for over 2,000 years. The real anomaly is the small number of denominations that caved to cultural pressure. The vast majority of Christians around the world and throughout history have stood by the Bible’s teaching on marriage — and still do.


    We're all so lucky to have all this love and peace generated by the amazing religions of the world. Thank god for God.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
    The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

    Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

    The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/southern-baptist-obergefell-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare





    Clarence Thomas promised y’all this was next. I’m wondering if this however will be more complicated to overturn because Congress codified Sam sex marriage into law and abortion and contraceptives rights never were congressional law signed by a POTUS
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.


    Very few things in life are funnier than weirdo evangelicals calling others “offshoots”, when everyone other than Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic adherents are “offshoots”.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.


    Very few things in life are funnier than weirdo evangelicals calling others “offshoots”, when everyone other than Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic adherents are “offshoots”.


    Numerous sets of crazies trying to out crazy other sets of crazies by forcing their delusions on everyone.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
    The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

    Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

    The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/southern-baptist-obergefell-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare







    This. I'm angry and tired of these people. I can not understand why people can not let others live. Want to be evangelicals~ go on with your bas self-want to control your wife and family-you do you....BUT get your nose out of everyone else's life. Live and let live. No one needs these evangelicals saving them.....we don't care what they do why do they care so much about what others do. I've said it before seriously let's divide this country up-one side can be angry controlling christians who love to worship their king the other side can be the people they are who love their neighbors and treat humans like humans-respecting their differences. MAGA is destroying this country.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.


    It's clearly not fine to the MAGA who want to convert everyone to their religion-white christian nationalists. Open your eyes we have left America where we once had freedom of religion and freedom to not practice religion. WAKE UP AMERICA!
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:The Christian right want much worse. They want to end birth control. They want women out of the workplace (white women, that is), home having babies.


    THIS! WAKE UP!
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.


    Very few things in life are funnier than weirdo evangelicals calling others “offshoots”, when everyone other than Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic adherents are “offshoots”.

    Organized groups in their individual boxing corners trying to out-God, out-box, out- murder, and out-shill one another.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.



    STFU, the Episcopal Church is Christian! They’re not snake handlers like the proles in the Baptist Church but absolutely Christian.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

    Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

    Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

    Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?


    Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here


    You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

    Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

    - Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
    - Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
    - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
    - United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
    - Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
    - Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
    - Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.


    Those are not Christian base churches they are offshoots of the religion.

    Again whatever you want to do that's fine but don't make up a religion, how about claiming to be Christian Church but worship trees and objects e.g. Unitarian universalists. Just be atheist it's fine.



    STFU, the Episcopal Church is Christian! They’re not snake handlers like the proles in the Baptist Church but absolutely Christian.


    You are confused with both episcopal church and southern baptists, the first is not a real church the second don't handle snakes that is Pentecostal. Good example of your stupidity on both fronts.
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