CMC vs Amherst-Econ and Philosophy Major

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP is legacy at Amherst so why is s/he asking us unhooked folks for info.

Apply ED to your alum school where your kid is hooked (Amherst) and if you don't get in apply RD to your non-hooked school (CMC).

Easy peasy.

Sounds ridiculous. OP basically wants to constrict her son from going to a college he would fit in with and would definitely have elite resources all to go to her alma mater because...it's hers? Like there's not really a reason her child would want to go to Amherst.


huh? Amherst is being suggested because OP's kid has legacy so it would be easier for OP's son to get in. getting into either is next to impossible because they are such small schools (for example, CMC has only 325 freshmen which is tiny!). not sure size of Amherst freshmen).
both are great schools ofc. just people trying to help OP by steering her to the one where she has a hook. hooks trump everything when you're talking about highly selective and tiny SLACs.


Does Amherst still have legacy preference?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP is legacy at Amherst so why is s/he asking us unhooked folks for info.

Apply ED to your alum school where your kid is hooked (Amherst) and if you don't get in apply RD to your non-hooked school (CMC).

Easy peasy.

Sounds ridiculous. OP basically wants to constrict her son from going to a college he would fit in with and would definitely have elite resources all to go to her alma mater because...it's hers? Like there's not really a reason her child would want to go to Amherst.


huh? Amherst is being suggested because OP's kid has legacy so it would be easier for OP's son to get in. getting into either is next to impossible because they are such small schools (for example, CMC has only 325 freshmen which is tiny!). not sure size of Amherst freshmen).
both are great schools ofc. just people trying to help OP by steering her to the one where she has a hook. hooks trump everything when you're talking about highly selective and tiny SLACs.

Because CMC is in a consortium the size of 8,000 students...
Anonymous
Amherst doesn't have legacy admission. I'm not sure why you being an alum matters at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amherst grads do economics to go into Wall Street like everyone else. Not sure why we are all imagining Amherst students wanting economics for the sake of pure intellectual desire and a need for graduate study

+1, thank you! I thought I was going crazy and misplaced my pills. Amherst has a ton of athletes who have no interest in pure economics for the sake of academics, but because they don't have access to a communications major.

These athletes are ruining LACs. We need this to stop.
Anonymous
I've toured both in the last year (and spent a lot of time in Amherst over the last 20 years).

CMC is really great in those majors. It's a nice mix of professionalism and academics. Those kids expect to be working after 4 years. The whole vibe of the colleges is lovely - California at its most basic maybe (not especially "interesting", but great food, great weather, an hour from LAX). Pomona also impressive, but a harder admit.

Amherst feels dusty right now. I think their athletic balance is off (the most athletes of any LAC) and they went all-in for diversity so it's a weird barbell of kids - not a lot of mc or umc. At the same time, they lost their way post Supreme Court decision and had the largest drop off of any college with admitting URM kids - which tells me before they were leaning heaving on race to admit. The whole area is very "white people living in white communities with Black Lives Matter bumper stickers". Its heart is in the right place, but on some basic level, I dont think they get it.

If you had asked about Williams or even Midd vs CMC, I get the question. But for me, CMC over Amherst. Plus it's an easier admit. But apply widely.
Anonymous
If you would like to consider the broader aspects of these schools, Claremont McKenna appears in this Princeton Review survey-based site for "Best Classroom Experience":

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings/?rankings=best-classroom-experience

And Amherst appears in "Their Students Love These Colleges":

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings/?rankings=their-students-love-these-colleges
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like ASP would be better fits for your DS - Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona?

Can you say more about that?
Anonymous
Both Claremont McKenna and Amherst offer national-level economics programs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you have strong connections to Amherst (e.g. Legacy) it's critical your DS applies ED to Amherst.

Best of luck getting in! With a legacy hook or other connection, I'd prioritize Amherst. It's an outstanding place to study those two subjects.

Nearly everyone is an econ major at CMC, so it's a great place too, but with your connections/hooks to Amherst, I'd prioritize that for best chance to get in.

Listen to this, OP. Amherst with connections will be an “easier” admit than CMC. It is that simple.
Anonymous
I’d choose cmc- more investment and opportunities in both majors. You can always go back to New England afterwards as they have a strong network in New York. Amherst has more athlete Econ majors, which isn’t the most inclusive scene.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Amherst is the best but also fights with Williams for top LAC in the US. What are your son's stats and accomplishments?



No it doesn’t. And the same goes for Williams. There are about a dozen LACs which have indistinguishable student profiles and you could create a ranking which put any of them at the top. It’s a bucket of schools and the same goes on the top university side of the house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amherst is the best but also fights with Williams for top LAC in the US. What are your son's stats and accomplishments?



No it doesn’t. And the same goes for Williams. There are about a dozen LACs which have indistinguishable student profiles and you could create a ranking which put any of them at the top. It’s a bucket of schools and the same goes on the top university side of the house.

+1, Amherst students don’t have ridiculously higher stats than cmc students, they attract different personalities but I really don’t see where people get these opinions other than from us news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amherst is the best but also fights with Williams for top LAC in the US. What are your son's stats and accomplishments?



No it doesn’t. And the same goes for Williams. There are about a dozen LACs which have indistinguishable student profiles and you could create a ranking which put any of them at the top. It’s a bucket of schools and the same goes on the top university side of the house.


This is simply not true, as indicated by differences in selectivity and admitted students stats.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have strong connections to Amherst (e.g. Legacy) it's critical your DS applies ED to Amherst.

Best of luck getting in! With a legacy hook or other connection, I'd prioritize Amherst. It's an outstanding place to study those two subjects.

Nearly everyone is an econ major at CMC, so it's a great place too, but with your connections/hooks to Amherst, I'd prioritize that for best chance to get in.

Listen to this, OP. Amherst with connections will be an “easier” admit than CMC. It is that simple.


Except that Amherst eliminated legacy preference. Now it is simply that much harder to get into than CMC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have strong connections to Amherst (e.g. Legacy) it's critical your DS applies ED to Amherst.

Best of luck getting in! With a legacy hook or other connection, I'd prioritize Amherst. It's an outstanding place to study those two subjects.

Nearly everyone is an econ major at CMC, so it's a great place too, but with your connections/hooks to Amherst, I'd prioritize that for best chance to get in.

Listen to this, OP. Amherst with connections will be an “easier” admit than CMC. It is that simple.

But it’s not true at all. Because Amherst doesn’t factor “connections” into admission. They’re also going hyper dei now that their black population has been decimated.
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