Brown: After College?

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman, now rising sophomore, has an internship this summer and paid research for next year. Very happy on all fronts. They report great outcomes from their connections in a club for their concentration.

+1 my rising sophomore has a paid internship abroad…and it is from the one extra course he took p/f because it was outside his usual comfort zone/new to him. He ended up absolutely loving it and winning a departmental award.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew B at the recent graduation so I assume their kids went there.

I’m increasingly suspicious of universities that admit kids for fame and money, which is common with ivy leagues.

yeah and gwyneth paltrow and chris martin's son moses is there now too.

brown has always admitted celebrity kids and nepo babies.

Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Duke, USC….the list goes on …plenty of celebs abound elsewhere too….

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Chris Martin’s kid is studying music. I’ve seen him play. The kid deserved to be admitted. Also, very smart. Chris is well-educated himself. Brown is great for the arts.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the grading at Brown is clearly quite liberal. Just look it up. Not so much at Cornell. I have no connection whatsoever with either.

This. Brown has lots of grade inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Martin’s kid is studying music. I’ve seen him play. The kid deserved to be admitted. Also, very smart. Chris is well-educated himself. Brown is great for the arts.

Lots of talented musicians... he was admitted because of who he is. Don't be silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you all for the responses. I'm op. It's really hard to understand what the true value is of these ivy league schools. As we all know, they are really hard to get into, they are extremely expensive, and then there seems to be so many negative storylines. As someone who did not go to an ivy league school, doesn't belong to any of those clubs where I might socialize with people who did, I'm having a lot of trouble getting to the facts. People have a lot of baggage when it comes the ivy league. (I think me too) Even these mixed responses feel more real than anything we got closer to home. Thank you again!

I went to an Ivy with a vaunted career network. I can’t cite any specific instance of it helping me, perhaps because of the field I’m in. On the other hand I’m sure at times people have looked kindly on my resume because of the name of the school.

There are benefits, but I wouldn’t expect some direct or clear-cut quid pro quo.

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Anonymous wrote:The only place I've ever heard Brown (and Cornell) insulted as easy ivys is on DCUM. The rest of the world will be impressed that you went to an Ivy League school.

That's because DCUM is likely your only exposure to commonly held views among UMC/UC families.

Brown is generally seen in these circles as the least rigorous of the Ivies, and most inclined to admit celebrity kids who otherwise don't have the academic chops. Cornell is considered an easier admit than the rest of the Ivies, but more demanding of its students. It has a reputation for grade deflation, not being an "easy Ivy."

This is the truth based on opinions in these circles. However both are still seen as more prestigious than UVA and the hiring by top companies confirms it. Brown and Cornell for undergrad will never be viewed quite the same as HPY and Penn, stanford, Columbia (though that has slid significantly in favorability). Dartmouth in some groups is seen as better than Brown. It remains a fine school with the ivy bump

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The order varies in perception by region and class, but all are excellent.

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Brown is not a top target for recruiting compared to other ivies and Duke, Stanford but it still does well and far better than UVA, william and mary, maybe a little better than washU, vandy. Brown is great just not a top-10 as far as outcomes

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Do they list outcomes on their website? I imagine many go on to grad school. Look at companies attending their career fairs. I imagine there is somewhat more of a focus from northeast companies rather than nation wide, maybe not that many DC area internships specifically recruiting from Brown

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Well, the grading at Brown is clearly quite liberal.

I know some of you won't believe me, but it actually isn't. The difference is that you can choose which courses you want to get a grade in and grades below C or satisfactory aren't recorded--and you don't get credit for them. So, most people have high gpas.

But getting an A in any given course isn't any easier than elsewhere. Organic chem weeds out as many premeds as it does at other colleges, for example. However, Brown premeds take courses, including tough courses, in other areas. They just don't take them for grades. Meanwhile, at other colleges many premeds take only the easiest courses they can outside their major because they don't want to tank their gpas for med school.It is not unknown for native speakers in a language to sign up for introductory foreign language courses.

Humanities students at other colleges fulfill their distribution requirements with "physics for poets," "Rocks for Jocks," and Engineering 1o1 (colloquially known as "How to Plug In a Computer and use the calculator function."

In the old days, premeds at other top schools even skipped taking organic chem at their home institution and flocked to summer course at places like the University of Houston where they were virtually guaranteed an easy A--in part because they took ONLY that one course during the summer. A few years back, the med school admissions council--forget the exact name--changed the rules so you can[t do that.

Some schools advertise that you can take a limited number of courses--say 2 or 4--pass/fail. The small print says "with permission of the instructor." At some schools, professors teaching popular courses or advanced courses NEVER give permission. At some schools, these pass/fail grades are factored into your gpa or counted against you for getting awards like Phi Beta Kappa. So, most students opt for taking the easy gut course for a grade rather than a better course they would rather take pass/fail.

A PP cited the case of her son who took a course outside his comfort zone S/NC and discovering that this was a field that he was interested in and excelled in. At another school, he never would have done that.

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Did you post something very similar in the Brown subreddit? They have a list of outcomes on their career pages. Are you deciding whether to accept a spot off the waitlist or have you not even applied yet? Worry about getting in first.

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Anonymous wrote:

Well, the grading at Brown is clearly quite liberal.

I know some of you won't believe me, but it actually isn't. The difference is that you can choose which courses you want to get a grade in and grades below C or satisfactory aren't recorded--and you don't get credit for them. So, most people have high gpas.

But getting an A in any given course isn't any easier than elsewhere. Organic chem weeds out as many premeds as it does at other colleges, for example. However, Brown premeds take courses, including tough courses, in other areas. They just don't take them for grades. Meanwhile, at other colleges many premeds take only the easiest courses they can outside their major because they don't want to tank their gpas for med school.It is not unknown for native speakers in a language to sign up for introductory foreign language courses.

Humanities students at other colleges fulfill their distribution requirements with "physics for poets," "Rocks for Jocks," and Engineering 1o1 (colloquially known as "How to Plug In a Computer and use the calculator function."

In the old days, premeds at other top schools even skipped taking organic chem at their home institution and flocked to summer course at places like the University of Houston where they were virtually guaranteed an easy A--in part because they took ONLY that one course during the summer. A few years back, the med school admissions council--forget the exact name--changed the rules so you can[t do that.

Some schools advertise that you can take a limited number of courses--say 2 or 4--pass/fail. The small print says "with permission of the instructor." At some schools, professors teaching popular courses or advanced courses NEVER give permission. At some schools, these pass/fail grades are factored into your gpa or counted against you for getting awards like Phi Beta Kappa. So, most students opt for taking the easy gut course for a grade rather than a better course they would rather take pass/fail.

A PP cited the case of her son who took a course outside his comfort zone S/NC and discovering that this was a field that he was interested in and excelled in. At another school, he never would have done that.

Brown literally encourages students to take Organic Chemistry pass fail because they don't want it to be a weed out course.

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Martin’s kid is studying music. I’ve seen him play. The kid deserved to be admitted. Also, very smart. Chris is well-educated himself. Brown is great for the arts.

Lots of talented musicians... he was admitted because of who he is. Don't be silly.

Genetics are in his favor. As well as a built in musical genius in the house mentoring him since he was an infant.

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There is a poster that has had a serious bug up her @ss about Brown the past few years. She’s like Trump on Harvard, only her obsession is with trying to knock down Brown.

Swears by wiki and chatgpt vs real students current experiences.

There was a former Northeastern troll and a Michigan troll at one time. They thankfully have lost interest as their kids moved through college elsewhere.

You know whose kids didn’t get in by these posts, it’s been said Trump’s vengeance stems from this as well.