Any first-hand recent experience with CS at Tsinghua/Peking Universities in China?

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding security clearances, state department funded language programs (like nsli-y, etc) sent kids to the PRC for years. Recently, sent more kids to Taiwan, but I thought it was due to covid, but maybe it's the security issue?

sending a 16 yo for a 7 week summer program with other Americans is just entirely different.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

I apologize for the off topic question to this post, but i often wonder about the roots of racism in China and Japan. When I spent time there (lived/worked there for a short time), there was such bias against black/dark skinned people. Even their beauty norms are all about light skin. I am curious.

Part of it is simply that historically poor people spent a lot of time outside and necessarily were very dark (farming and other professions) while the upper class spent significantly more time indoors and were consequently lighter skinned (generally). At the very top of society, faces were very white, often painted white for women, to show just how 'untouched' by the sun they were.

There are also elements of western influence but the ancient social hierarchy and how much time people spent outside is a not insignificant part of the story.

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Anonymous wrote:As a STEM hiring manager, I would not hire a non-PRC citizen with an undergrad from either place. All PRC universities emphasize pure memorization over creativity. It largely is a cultural phenomenon. I also would be doing more extensive screening in the interview process, posing some Kobayashi Maru design or programming problems to see if they could cope.

The huge advantage westerners have in technology partly comes from an ability to think outside the box, to be creative, and to understand in depth (not merely cramming for the tests). Much of E Asia are outstanding at manufacturing and at being a fast follower, but never would have invented the iPhone de novo.

Similar issues with excessive memorization exist in S Korea, India, and Taiwan. Somewhat true, but perhaps less so, also in Japan and Singapore. India and Singapore usually teach in English; English is the default interoperable language both of those places. A few specific universities in Japan or Taiwan teach STEM (at least) in English.

My suggestion is to study STEM in the US, Canada, UK, or Ireland. Then, have DC see about getting a Luce Fellowship (might have a new name, not sure) or similar to spend a year working in Asia.

Deepseek is a wholly Chinese invention. The techniques used are novel and are being copied (yes, copied) by American companies.

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if you ain't cheating at Tsinghua, you ain't trying.

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Anonymous wrote:lol severe government censorship. Please ask Harvard how it feels about it.

Harvard is the king of censorship.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

I apologize for the off topic question to this post, but i often wonder about the roots of racism in China and Japan. When I spent time there (lived/worked there for a short time), there was such bias against black/dark skinned people. Even their beauty norms are all about light skin. I am curious.

It is because over there if you are tanned or dark then it means you are a laborer working outside. Over here if you are tanned or dark it means you go on vacations.

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Anonymous wrote:As a STEM hiring manager, I would not hire a non-PRC citizen with an undergrad from either place. All PRC universities emphasize pure memorization over creativity. It largely is a cultural phenomenon. I also would be doing more extensive screening in the interview process, posing some Kobayashi Maru design or programming problems to see if they could cope.

The huge advantage westerners have in technology partly comes from an ability to think outside the box, to be creative, and to understand in depth (not merely cramming for the tests). Much of E Asia are outstanding at manufacturing and at being a fast follower, but never would have invented the iPhone de novo.

Similar issues with excessive memorization exist in S Korea, India, and Taiwan. Somewhat true, but perhaps less so, also in Japan and Singapore. India and Singapore usually teach in English; English is the default interoperable language both of those places. A few specific universities in Japan or Taiwan teach STEM (at least) in English.

My suggestion is to study STEM in the US, Canada, UK, or Ireland. Then, have DC see about getting a Luce Fellowship (might have a new name, not sure) or similar to spend a year working in Asia.

Deepseek is a wholly Chinese invention. The techniques used are novel and are being copied (yes, copied) by American companies.

The techniques weren't novel at all. Distillation is well known and well understood.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding security clearances, state department funded language programs (like nsli-y, etc) sent kids to the PRC for years. Recently, sent more kids to Taiwan, but I thought it was due to covid, but maybe it's the security issue?

Those programs have only allowed Taiwan for Mandarin for several years now

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Raz Gal-Or is an Israeli graduate of Beijing U. Google his videos about life there, interesting guy.

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Anonymous wrote:DC wants to study CS or computer related major. Wants to cast a wide net for both domestic and international universities. Very little information we can find regarding these two schools other the the US News world ranking. Would like to know if anyone's kids have studied there. Are the program rigorous? Are international students treated equally as the Chinese domestic students in terms of courses offered?

You’re either grossly naive or a Chinese troll. How are Americans EVER allowed in Communist Chinese universities?