Any first-hand recent experience with CS at Tsinghua/Peking Universities in China?

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Both are great universities and known worldwide.
But for every intelligent comment from a DC Mom, you will get 100 boneheads comments from folks who think they are experts because they knew some Chinese people in college. I wouldn't trust anything on this forum for info on Asia.

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Anonymous wrote:lol severe government censorship. Please ask Harvard how it feels about it.

May as well ask the same question of the moderator of this forum.

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I myself graduated from one of these schools. Particularly for CS, the success is determined by the quality of the individual. Sending a mediocre kid to Tsinghua/Peking would not magically turn the kid into a high performing individual. There are so many great colleges in the US for computer science, why bother sending your kid oversea.

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I taught at Beida for three years (in the last 10 years). I also taught there 20 years ago as a visiting academic.

You won't get good information here. Beida today reminds me a little of Stanford. That doesn't quite get the flavor, but I wouldn't have said that 20 years ago. Not by a long shot. 20 years ago, it was like you'd see in a movie: ping pong on the grounds, smoking, bad haircuts. Today it's very modern ( facilities, students, programming), and the kids are sophisticated and ambitious. They all want the same kind of summer internships the best and brightest want at US schools, and it's very career focused.

It lacks an American college rah rah vibe. I think the best western equivalent for CS might be Waterloo.

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^^ continuing

I just read some of the other posts. This idea that the students can't think out of the box is typical to this board. 100% off base slash racist slash stuck in some 1995 era. I sometimes think people who post here don't even have careers, the comments are so out of touch.

The one issue an American graduating from these schools will absolutely bump into is that some American companies will wonder about corporate espionage, which is huge. Americans at these schools (faculty included) will be approached by all kinds of actors - American and Chinese, government-sponsored and corporate - wondering if you aren't interested in some freelance opportunities (ie spying). Apple, etc will wonder who you're also getting paid by. But .. they have ways to investigate. it's just a matter of if they're interested enough to go through the hassle.

It works the other way too. If this students graduates and then spends 4 years at BABA, half of the American companies in the area will know their email and want them to jump to them for a huge amount of money

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Anonymous wrote:^^ continuing

I just read some of the other posts. This idea that the students can't think out of the box is typical to this board. 100% off base slash racist slash stuck in some 1995 era. I sometimes think people who post here don't even have careers, the comments are so out of touch.

The one issue an American graduating from these schools will absolutely bump into is that some American companies will wonder about corporate espionage, which is huge. Americans at these schools (faculty included) will be approached by all kinds of actors - American and Chinese, government-sponsored and corporate - wondering if you aren't interested in some freelance opportunities (ie spying). Apple, etc will wonder who you're also getting paid by. But .. they have ways to investigate. it's just a matter of if they're interested enough to go through the hassle.

It works the other way too. If this students graduates and then spends 4 years at BABA, half of the American companies in the area will know their email and want them to jump to them for a huge amount of money

Haha!! I was wondering about this exact same issue too!! There are so so many Chinese students here in the US but so little US students in China. I think this kind of issues will only be more moving forward considering the geopolitical climate in today's world ...

[Anonymous]

Go for a schwarmann

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

I don’t think so. No one there wants to marry a white person unless it is to gain access to the US. Cultural divide is very big

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Anonymous wrote:^^ continuing

I just read some of the other posts. This idea that the students can't think out of the box is typical to this board. 100% off base slash racist slash stuck in some 1995 era. I sometimes think people who post here don't even have careers, the comments are so out of touch.

The one issue an American graduating from these schools will absolutely bump into is that some American companies will wonder about corporate espionage, which is huge. Americans at these schools (faculty included) will be approached by all kinds of actors - American and Chinese, government-sponsored and corporate - wondering if you aren't interested in some freelance opportunities (ie spying). Apple, etc will wonder who you're also getting paid by. But .. they have ways to investigate. it's just a matter of if they're interested enough to go through the hassle.

It works the other way too. If this students graduates and then spends 4 years at BABA, half of the American companies in the area will know their email and want them to jump to them for a huge amount of money

This was my first thought too. I could imagine this being viewed suspiciously by any position requiring a security clearance.

[Anonymous]

Why would China give up space to westerners? Do people realize how intensely competitive it is for Chinese students?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

I apologize for the off topic question to this post, but i often wonder about the roots of racism in China and Japan. When I spent time there (lived/worked there for a short time), there was such bias against black/dark skinned people. Even their beauty norms are all about light skin. I am curious.

[Anonymous]

Regarding security clearances, state department funded language programs (like nsli-y, etc) sent kids to the PRC for years. Recently, sent more kids to Taiwan, but I thought it was due to covid, but maybe it's the security issue?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you Asian? Would be difficult socially as a white or other ethnic group person.

Being a blond, tall white person with fair skin and big blue eyes would be a plus.

East Asia is very racist and adores white skin. They'll do swimmingly.

I apologize for the off topic question to this post, but i often wonder about the roots of racism in China and Japan. When I spent time there (lived/worked there for a short time), there was such bias against black/dark skinned people. Even their beauty norms are all about light skin. I am curious.

I am not Asian, but come from another part of the brown world. The racism stems from Hollywood, seriously. Most folks in my home country will never see a black person and may very infrequently see a white person. The white folks that they do see are ex-pats or diplomats who are hyper-educated and tend to be well off. Thus, people in my home country will assume that white people are all multilingual NGO policy experts. My home country people have no idea that misfit MAGATs are a thing. By contrast, in my home country, people's only idea of black people comes from Hollywood characters, which (at least until recently) were pimps, gangsters, thugs.