Arlington and MLS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

What does sent mean here?

Arlington has a relationship with these organizations and they negotiated the move to the MLS clubs on behalf of the parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

What does sent mean here?

Arlington has a relationship with these organizations and they negotiated the move to the MLS clubs on behalf of the parents?

Wait, you are saying there is a local club here in NoVa where MLS Academies in NC, TX, MA, and PA in addition to our local MLS Academy in DC will take players from that club? Who cares if the club negotiated the move entirely or did absolutely nothing, if the ultimate result is players from that club ended up at these MLS Academies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

The 2011s have sent at least 4 to DCU, two to FC Cincy, and are still beating MLS Next clubs regularly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

Uhm- those already referenced went this year (in like the past 6 months)--5 full years after MLS Next started. They could have moved/played at any point across the past 5 years to Bethesda, Alexandria or SYC. They didn't. Perhaps the best proof point is that all these players got developed in house at the younger years and are attractive outside of the DMV--circumventing the lackluster process DCU has to identify and recruit local talent. The odds were against them and yet...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

Uhm- those already referenced went this year (in like the past 6 months)--5 full years after MLS Next started. They could have moved/played at any point across the past 5 years to Bethesda, Alexandria or SYC. They didn't. Perhaps the best proof point is that all these players got developed in house at the younger years and are attractive outside of the DMV--circumventing the lackluster process DCU has to identify and recruit local talent. The odds were against them and yet...

So 4 went to DCU but DCU is also missing them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

Uhm- those already referenced went this year (in like the past 6 months)--5 full years after MLS Next started. They could have moved/played at any point across the past 5 years to Bethesda, Alexandria or SYC. They didn't. Perhaps the best proof point is that all these players got developed in house at the younger years and are attractive outside of the DMV--circumventing the lackluster process DCU has to identify and recruit local talent. The odds were against them and yet...

So 4 went to DCU but DCU is also missing them?

I think the point is that Arlington is either pulling or developing talent that is equivalent to DCU. It's understandable that DCU is only going to take so many kids from one club and each age group is different in terms of depth. But, DCU has their pick of kids in the area (for the most part). They are not developing talent or creating teams that exceeds the local clubs such as Arlington. There are no DCU players in the national pool. Some of those kids have the talent. DCU might be a good fit for some kids. It is not for everyone. There are scenarios where Arlington is a better situation for a kid than DCU, particularly if they want to play in high school like many do or are high academic kids. And there are DCU kids still playing in high school and for other teams - against the rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

Uhm- those already referenced went this year (in like the past 6 months)--5 full years after MLS Next started. They could have moved/played at any point across the past 5 years to Bethesda, Alexandria or SYC. They didn't. Perhaps the best proof point is that all these players got developed in house at the younger years and are attractive outside of the DMV--circumventing the lackluster process DCU has to identify and recruit local talent. The odds were against them and yet...

So 4 went to DCU but DCU is also missing them?

I think the point is that Arlington is either pulling or developing talent that is equivalent to DCU. It's understandable that DCU is only going to take so many kids from one club and each age group is different in terms of depth. But, DCU has their pick of kids in the area (for the most part). They are not developing talent or creating teams that exceeds the local clubs such as Arlington. There are no DCU players in the national pool. Some of those kids have the talent. DCU might be a good fit for some kids. It is not for everyone. There are scenarios where Arlington is a better situation for a kid than DCU, particularly if they want to play in high school like many do or are high academic kids. And there are DCU kids still playing in high school and for other teams - against the rules.

Arlington being a higher caliber developer of players to the highest levels over Achilles, Bethesda, SAC/Baltimore Armor, Pipeline, Alexandria, SYC etc is surprising news

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

I think PP meant you should highlight the Arlington players who went to MLS academies after MLS Next started in 2020

Uhm- those already referenced went this year (in like the past 6 months)--5 full years after MLS Next started. They could have moved/played at any point across the past 5 years to Bethesda, Alexandria or SYC. They didn't. Perhaps the best proof point is that all these players got developed in house at the younger years and are attractive outside of the DMV--circumventing the lackluster process DCU has to identify and recruit local talent. The odds were against them and yet...

So 4 went to DCU but DCU is also missing them?

I think the point is that Arlington is either pulling or developing talent that is equivalent to DCU. It's understandable that DCU is only going to take so many kids from one club and each age group is different in terms of depth. But, DCU has their pick of kids in the area (for the most part). They are not developing talent or creating teams that exceeds the local clubs such as Arlington. There are no DCU players in the national pool. Some of those kids have the talent. DCU might be a good fit for some kids. It is not for everyone. There are scenarios where Arlington is a better situation for a kid than DCU, particularly if they want to play in high school like many do or are high academic kids. And there are DCU kids still playing in high school and for other teams - against the rules.

Arlington being a higher caliber developer of players to the highest levels over Achilles, Bethesda, SAC/Baltimore Armor, Pipeline, Alexandria, SYC etc is surprising news

I disagree. They can all be developers of high caliber players, it’s a matter of finding which club will nurture a player’s talent and develop them sufficiently to be competitive at an academy and above level.

They may not be able to do it for all their players but it should never be a one size fits all. For example, smaller talented players would never be noticed and developed at certain clubs. But that doesn’t mean those clubs can’t develop players.

[Anonymous]

This may be hard for some parents to hear, but even at the highest academy levels, most players are there as fillers to support the development of the 1, 2 or 3 players who really have a chance to go professional

Mbappe and Lamine Yamal needed training partners and teammates for games

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Arlington 09 Boys has always been an extremely strong age group. It's top 3 teams have always been fairly competitive.

But there is a lot of drama about movement between the teams where some players have been misplaced for years, and there is not a free flow between teams, and it just makes you scratch your head about some of the placement decisions. It drives away many qualified players due to frustration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the '09 group, they have sent one kid to Charlotte, two to Austin FC, one to New England Revolution, one to Philly Union, at least one to DCU (probably more earlier), and another kid is moving to Colombia to play. That's a pretty good track record of helping kids get to the next level.

Now do every other year group. Arlington’s success rate at placing academies dropped like a lead balloon 3-4 years ago. Why? MLSNext.

Ok, let's do the 07s and 06s. They beat DCU 3-0 mid season, have a kid who willingly moved from DCU to Arlington. And have sent at least 15 boys on to play college soccer...at least 8 of them are D1. Oh, and the kids actually got an education, not some online school.

Focus. Don’t move the goal post. Try again.