Should DMV public schools remove student bathrooms entirely?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what would happen if a student had a bodily function need mid-school day, as would occur? There must be a plan for this. What happens.

When my kid had an sudden onset bout of high anxiety/upset stomach and encountered locked restrooms, he v*mitted in the nearby water fountain. Super gross, yes. He was mortified. I was called by the health room nurse. Apparently no backup plan if the restrooms are closed and you are not in a position to run around trying to find and open one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post did a series on MCPS routinely locking students out of the school bathrooms for the entire school day, as an effective method for preventing bathroom vandalism.

The ongoing problem is discussed in this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/585/1186432.page#29359515

Other threads discuss similar issues and methods in other DMV school systems.

I have to wonder if an effective way to address (and stop) the continuing vandalism of our public schools’ bathrooms would be to remove the bathrooms from schools entirely?

This is one of many reasons people send their kids to private school. Not to get into the Ivy League or top 20 college.


It’s so ridiculous that we are even talking about this topic and it makes me sad to see what public education has become.

[Anonymous]

I think the bathrooms will be permanently closed or redesigned the first time a student gets pregnant while at school. It’s a when, not an if.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the bathrooms will be permanently closed or redesigned the first time a student gets pregnant while at school. It’s a when, not an if.

You don’t think this has happened already?

[Anonymous]

Why not just have multiple self contained sink/toilet stalls dotted around the schools like they have to many other buildings ?

Preventing groups of kids going to a large communal bathroom together to cut class and egg each other on to cause mischief could reduce many of these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the bathrooms will be permanently closed or redesigned the first time a student gets pregnant while at school. It’s a when, not an if.

Students in DMV area public schools are raped in school bathrooms on a yearly basis. Google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the bathrooms will be permanently closed or redesigned the first time a student gets pregnant while at school. It’s a when, not an if.

Students in DMV area public schools are raped in school bathrooms on a yearly basis. Google it.

MD: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/girl-raped-in-maryland-high-school-bathroom/40567/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be better to remove the problematic students instead?

+1. The kids who are vandalizing bathrooms and fighting in middle and high school are the same kids who mostly come to school because their parents don't want to end up in court. They spend most of the day wandering the halls, making messes, and causing trouble. Put everything on Schoology and send them home with their laptops to learn. They're old enough to stay home alone and they have the tech skills to navigate the courses if they're inclined.

I agree with this too. What's wrong with distance learning? They said it was okay for years during covid.

I agree. They pushed distance learning on public school kids for years and said it was fine. Why can’t we kick the problem kids out of public schools and make them do distance learning from juvie instead? The inmates are running the asylum right now and it’s insane. A small percentage of problem kids have ruined public schools for all students. And all teachers. When are our elected officials going to wake up and do something about this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be better to remove the problematic students instead?

+1. The kids who are vandalizing bathrooms and fighting in middle and high school are the same kids who mostly come to school because their parents don't want to end up in court. They spend most of the day wandering the halls, making messes, and causing trouble. Put everything on Schoology and send them home with their laptops to learn. They're old enough to stay home alone and they have the tech skills to navigate the courses if they're inclined.

I agree with this too. What's wrong with distance learning? They said it was okay for years during covid.

I agree. They pushed distance learning on public school kids for years and said it was fine. Why can’t we kick the problem kids out of public schools and make them do distance learning from juvie instead? The inmates are running the asylum right now and it’s insane. A small percentage of problem kids have ruined public schools for all students. And all teachers. When are our elected officials going to wake up and do something about this?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be better to remove the problematic students instead?

+1. The kids who are vandalizing bathrooms and fighting in middle and high school are the same kids who mostly come to school because their parents don't want to end up in court. They spend most of the day wandering the halls, making messes, and causing trouble. Put everything on Schoology and send them home with their laptops to learn. They're old enough to stay home alone and they have the tech skills to navigate the courses if they're inclined.

I agree with this too. What's wrong with distance learning? They said it was okay for years during covid.

This would be ideal. But it seems they cannot pinpoint who is doing it since an adult cannnot stand watch in the bathroom. Plus it is such a widespread problem, it isn’t just a couple kids being terrors in the bathroom, it is many of them. Total property disrespect. But yes, if there was a way to isolate these kids and kick them out, that would be wonderful. But I just don’t see this happening plus there is sure to be a riot about how it is racist or inequitable or something if these kids did get kicked out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Why not just have multiple self contained sink/toilet stalls dotted around the schools like they have to many other buildings ?

Preventing groups of kids going to a large communal bathroom together to cut class and egg each other on to cause mischief could reduce many of these issues.

Because kids get 5 min to pass. There are hundreds of kids. Multiple kids need to use the bathroom at any given passing time. There is usually a line in the women’s bathroom during every passing time

[Anonymous]

Spreading the toilets around the school would decrease that congestion. My work place has one in the main customer service area and there are always zero lines since everyone is doing their business and just go when they see it’s empty. There isn’t a need for queuing, it’s a very elegant solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Spreading the toilets around the school would decrease that congestion. My work place has one in the main customer service area and there are always zero lines since everyone is doing their business and just go when they see it’s empty. There isn’t a need for queuing, it’s a very elegant solution.

But schools want the majority of bathroom needs to happen during passing. They don’t want everyone trying to leave class all throughout the day to use the bathroom. Therefore, the bathrooms need to accommodate more than one person at a time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be better to remove the problematic students instead?

+1. The kids who are vandalizing bathrooms and fighting in middle and high school are the same kids who mostly come to school because their parents don't want to end up in court. They spend most of the day wandering the halls, making messes, and causing trouble. Put everything on Schoology and send them home with their laptops to learn. They're old enough to stay home alone and they have the tech skills to navigate the courses if they're inclined.

I agree with this too. What's wrong with distance learning? They said it was okay for years during covid.

This would be ideal. But it seems they cannot pinpoint who is doing it since an adult cannnot stand watch in the bathroom. Plus it is such a widespread problem, it isn’t just a couple kids being terrors in the bathroom, it is many of them. Total property disrespect. But yes, if there was a way to isolate these kids and kick them out, that would be wonderful. But I just don’t see this happening plus there is sure to be a riot about how it is racist or inequitable or something if these kids did get kicked out

That's the problem with any kind of solution that segregates the kids into different groups. What happens if the "problem" group is disproportionately one or two demographics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You cannot seriously think this would be a good or legally possible idea, op. If you want to post about how bad the bathroom situation is do that, not this absurd nonsense.

OP must be a variant of a different sort of swiftie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal