Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.

you're not being very nice either.

Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.

I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.

As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?

The above "sensitive much" is a good example of rudeness when talking to strangers on the internet. Doubtful that pp would say that to someone in person.

DP. You could have just answered "yes".

[Anonymous]

The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.

you're not being very nice either.

Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.

I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.

As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?

Calling religion indoctrination is not a factual claim. It's a belief statement.

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

In my family, we are similar. I tell my kids that they don't have to believe me. They can look up information and examine it for themselves. Then, we discuss. It's a great learning opportunity and helps to develop analytical and critical thinking skills.

This is very different than how I was raised. Bible study was for analysis of the words and their meaning. It was assumed those words were already truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

Thanks PP for your gracious response. It's refreshing.
--person you responded to

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

In my family, we are similar. I tell my kids that they don't have to believe me. They can look up information and examine it for themselves. Then, we discuss. It's a great learning opportunity and helps to develop analytical and critical thinking skills.

This is very different than how I was raised. Bible study was for analysis of the words and their meaning. It was assumed those words were already truth.

I'm Christian. I was raised with the knowledge that I could believe what I wanted, but that my parents and many other people around me believed (and lived!) the Bible. I wouldn't be a Christian if there hadn't been openness and practicing what you preached.

I realize not everyone gets that - regardless of religious background - and I'm grateful for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

In my family, we are similar. I tell my kids that they don't have to believe me. They can look up information and examine it for themselves. Then, we discuss. It's a great learning opportunity and helps to develop analytical and critical thinking skills.

This is very different than how I was raised. Bible study was for analysis of the words and their meaning. It was assumed those words were already truth.

I'm Christian. I was raised with the knowledge that I could believe what I wanted, but that my parents and many other people around me believed (and lived!) the Bible. I wouldn't be a Christian if there hadn't been openness and practicing what you preached.

I realize not everyone gets that - regardless of religious background - and I'm grateful for it.

I assume your parents did not also give you permission to speak whatever language you wanted to speak, even though it was natural for you to speak the vernacular.

What religion are you, pp? The same as your parents, or something different, or no religion at all?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do some atheists dislike non-atheists? Why do some of them not respect others’ beliefs and call them names based on their beliefs? Why do they use words like indoctrination to insult other people?

What do you think?

You are taking offense of their opinions. That’s on you. Disagreeing is not disrespect. The fact that you don’t like their opinion does not make it a personal insult.

Fear. Indoctrination. Uppity and lacking thinking skills. Hypocrite. Ass8hole.

Not simply disagreement. No discussion. Personal insults and disrespect.

“uppity and lacking thinking skills”
Then, “Ass8hole.”

I refuse to believe you aren’t a troll. Your comments are weird and off-putting, put mildly. Either a troll or someone who is esl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?

Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.

And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.

Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"

When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.

Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.

I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.

You are just indoctrinating your children into another way of thinking. Indoctrination is still indoctrination. It’s no better than religious people indoctrinating their kids. You just think you are better- but you aren’t.

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Bigots.

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Anonymous wrote:Bigots.

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