Are veterans turning against trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

This view to me is how the stereotypical military guy views Trump and his cabinet. They want to see themselves as the strongest. No matter that the physical fitness test is less important for many jobs and our security. Security goes way beyond fitness tests these days but talking to them you'f never know. They want to believe they are the best especially physically. And Trump and his cabinet play into this desire.

For starters, I'm not a guy. Not all vets are men. But do go on imagining what I look like and what I believe-- the left's refusal to understand, much less answer any actual right-wing viewpoints will hurt you and not me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And lol on weaponizing the complaint process. There are still so many assaults that don't go reported or get dismissed. But these guys would rather not get in trouble for their bad behavior.

That’s such a huge red flag when someone is laser focused on punishing accusers and not perpetrators. They’re providing cover.

Or they are noticing that supervisors don't get paid enough to deal with the level of paper terrorism that they encounter anytime they don't give someone a perfect rating. Complaints are much more common in the military and government than the private sector. The military could use some private sector common sense to improve the working conditions of supervisors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

Were you enlisted for 5 years in your 20s and you’ve been watching Fox every day for 30 years? Or are you completely full of it and making up an online persona?

I now only know retired Colonels and Generals, but not one then thinks that Hegseth is qualified, normal, or positive. No one who understands leadership can. No one who understands the rules and procedures can.

There is nothing conservative about Trump, BTW. Nothing at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

Yes, vets tend to skew conservative. But traditional conservative values have absolutely nothing to do with this inane administration. Yes, recruitment numbers were down but they started turning around even before election day in 2024. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-military-recruitment-trump-hegseth-91700f0b688c3460458e467da95c8268 How can you credit Hegseth for things that started happening before he was even installed?

Sorry dude. Your talking points are bogus and contrived. Hegseth is an absolute clown. And so are you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And lol on weaponizing the complaint process. There are still so many assaults that don't go reported or get dismissed. But these guys would rather not get in trouble for their bad behavior.

That’s such a huge red flag when someone is laser focused on punishing accusers and not perpetrators. They’re providing cover.

Or they are noticing that supervisors don't get paid enough to deal with the level of paper terrorism that they encounter anytime they don't give someone a perfect rating. Complaints are much more common in the military and government than the private sector. The military could use some private sector common sense to improve the working conditions of supervisors.

I stopped taking you seriously after “paper terrorism”.

[Anonymous]

Nope

[Anonymous]

absolutely not! He is doing a fantastic job even with the dems fighting him all the way. He will be the greatest president in history. I am very happy with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:absolutely not! He is doing a fantastic job even with the dems fighting him all the way. He will be the greatest president in history. I am very happy with him.

Hello Chinese troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

Oh, so your'e a let me drink and rape and whatever I want type because I'm so strong. GTF out.

You and Hegseth are an embarrassment. Hegseth is going to put our soldiers in danger with his incompetence.

[Anonymous]

The vets in my family (former Republicans) hate him.

Ditto a few neighbors.

The most pro-Trump Rs in my orbit are the wealthy lobbyists who are doing even better with budget busting tax cuts and a corruptible tariff regime bringing in more business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And lol on weaponizing the complaint process. There are still so many assaults that don't go reported or get dismissed. But these guys would rather not get in trouble for their bad behavior.

That’s such a huge red flag when someone is laser focused on punishing accusers and not perpetrators. They’re providing cover.

Or they are noticing that supervisors don't get paid enough to deal with the level of paper terrorism that they encounter anytime they don't give someone a perfect rating. Complaints are much more common in the military and government than the private sector. The military could use some private sector common sense to improve the working conditions of supervisors.

I work in a large civilian government agency. SA complaints would be in the low single digits each year— if we had any. It’s a problem in the military. And a huge problem for deployed members denied abortion access. Punishing survivors doesn’t make it less of a problem. And, I’ve worked in the private sector as well. Just as many stupid “someone cooked fish in the microwave” HR complaints.

He wants an all straight male military. He’d prefer it be all white, but some needs to be cannon fodder I guess. That appeals to a certain segment of MAGA. But, even ignoring civil rights issues (because strong war man), we aren’t fighting Vietnam in 2025. The all strong white male military model leaves a lot of talent needed for a 21st century military on the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

Recruitment is a huge problem for federal agencies in general. You're chalking that up to Biden? Recruitment has been falliing everywhere because no one wanted to work for the USDA, FEMA, IRS, etc. When Trump got shot, the secret service had to hire local police because they had 600 open agent spots. At least military service gets glorified, while every federal employee gets called corrupt, incompetent, and 'evil' on a daily basis by conservative politicians -- while being paid below-market salaries.

But go ahead. Put your pro-Trump stuff all over the internet. You are on the wrong side of history, and every one of your descendants will see the digital trail you left supporting this authoritarian regime. They will know and be rightly ashamed of you.

[Anonymous]

My elderly father-in-law served in three wars. Despises Trump and is appalled by what the country he served has turned into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vet here. You wouldn't know this from the thread, but vets and military skew conservative. Conservatives generally support Trump.

I support Hegseth and think he's the best SecDef we've had in a long time. Recruitment numbers had reached crisis levels during the Biden administration. In 2022, the US had the lowest number of recruits in the history of the all-volunteer force. Literally no one wanted to be in Biden's Army. Now recruitment is skyrocketing.

Hegseth is making needed changes. He is directly tackling the weaponization of the employee complaint process. He is standardizing physical fitness requirements so that we can be sure everyone in the job is actually qualified to do it. He is inviting back the soldiers that were kicked out due to covid.

Recruitment is a huge problem for federal agencies in general. You're chalking that up to Biden? Recruitment has been falliing everywhere because no one wanted to work for the USDA, FEMA, IRS, etc. When Trump got shot, the secret service had to hire local police because they had 600 open agent spots. At least military service gets glorified, while every federal employee gets called corrupt, incompetent, and 'evil' on a daily basis by conservative politicians -- while being paid below-market salaries.

But go ahead. Put your pro-Trump stuff all over the internet. You are on the wrong side of history, and every one of your descendants will see the digital trail you left supporting this authoritarian regime. They will know and be rightly ashamed of you.

Recruitment in federal government is going to be a huge issue with all of vicious lies, smears and trashtalking of federal employees, calling them moochers, lazy, accusing them of waste, fraud and abuse, and so on.

Recruitment in federal government is going to be a huge issue with the pointless Return to Office policies, which was supposed to make federal employees more productive, effective, collaborative. They ALREADY WERE doing their work, they ALREADY WERE productive, effective, and collaborative. Now they are doing it more tired and stressed out, dealing with pointless artificially-created traffic congestion on their commute, spending more time away from their families, and so on.

Recruitment in federal government is going to be a huge issue when people learn about this idiotic DOGE crap and lies about "rampant waste and fraud" claiming they could find $2 trillion (but only came up with $150 billion, the overwhelming majority of which wasn't even fraud or waste, it was just stuff they didn't like or didn't understand), and the pointless added bureaucracy, delays and inefficient garbage of now having to jump through hoops of having DOGE review every funding request, and all of the other pointless nonsense that is accomplishing absolutely nothing of value.

Recruitment in federal government is going to be a huge issue as all of its processes and systems start to break down because of the incompetent, dysfunctional way this administration is running things.

Recruitment in federal government is going to be a huge issue when you censor the accomplishments of blacks, of women, of anyone who isn't straight, white, Christian and male.

I have a college-age child who, along with classmates, had been scouring USAJobs looking for a good federal job. Now, they all have an attitude of "hell no" and want nothing to do with federal government because of Trump. Instead my child is looking at grad school.

[Anonymous]

Wow, one veteran is turning against Trump? OMG, I'm losing my mind, that's mind-blowing information!