Publishing high school research

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I personally think the hs research publishing trend is totally bs. But, that being said, I still think colleges like it. Research is one of the most frequent buzzwords in college admission sessions after the word 'holistic'. EVERY school touts its research capabilities within stem, humanities and social sciences. I think talking about research helps a student display their intellectual curiosity and initiative. It shows experience with tackling essential questions. It doesnr have to be a curated endeavor and can even be something they do on their own. My kid took a college course while in hs that had a final research paper assigned. In his college supplemental essays, he talked at length about that experience, the process, and how it fueled his interest in what he wants to do in college. No fancy company program and nothing published and no private counselor. 'Research' was related to an interest they had already started exploring years earlier. It was just 1 element of a cohesive application with a strong narrative. Kid got in early to an ivy where they genuinely plan to major in that academic area. You can use a private company to facilitate, but there are no guarantees that their service will lead to acceptances...


Yes but what you’re describing is normal research done in the context of a school.

The publishing part would be the unusual part if the research were peer reviewed by those in the scientific community and found to add value to existing literature. But again, that’s rare for a high schooler (although a friend was saying they got a menu from a company offering papers “coauthored” with a graduate student for 5k$, with a professor for 10k$ etc…


Usually $25k for peer-reviewed & reputable publication.


Probably higher. The 5k and 10k menu my friend saw didn’t guarantee that that the doctoral student or professor would be at good universities or that the publication be a good one…
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There are several websites where high school research can be published - https://www.lumiere-education.com/post/15-journals-to-publish-your-research-in-high-school. For STEM (Bio science) research paper publication which is the best?

Best for what? Current administration frowns upon research.


Which is the Best for top college admission?
For that, you want ISEF and STS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UVA likes a passion project….doesn’t mean published fake research….

I feel like I watch the UVA dean pretty regularly and I’ve never heard the words “passion project.” What is your source on this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are several websites where high school research can be published - https://www.lumiere-education.com/post/15-journals-to-publish-your-research-in-high-school. For STEM (Bio science) research paper publication which is the best?

Best for what? Current administration frowns upon research.


Which is the Best for top college admission?
For that, you want ISEF and STS


Can you use the same research for ISEF and STS. Is participation good or win these?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are several websites where high school research can be published - https://www.lumiere-education.com/post/15-journals-to-publish-your-research-in-high-school. For STEM (Bio science) research paper publication which is the best?

Best for what? Current administration frowns upon research.


Which is the Best for top college admission?
For that, you want ISEF and STS


Can you use the same research for ISEF and STS. Is participation good or win these?

Why don’t you read up on them? They’re incredibly competitive…most kids would consider themselves lucky to be invited to compete (only 2-3 pct of applicants) let alone win the competition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA likes a passion project….doesn’t mean published fake research….

I feel like I watch the UVA dean pretty regularly and I’ve never heard the words “passion project.” What is your source on this?


I agree that passion projects were big with UVA this cycle. No “source” other than observation. UVA seemed to favor kids with passion projects. It shows leadership, impact, creativity, and fit to major. Maybe you have heard those word used by the UVA dean?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are several websites where high school research can be published - https://www.lumiere-education.com/post/15-journals-to-publish-your-research-in-high-school. For STEM (Bio science) research paper publication which is the best?

Best for what? Current administration frowns upon research.


Which is the Best for top college admission?


I'd read about a service where for only a few thousand dollars your kid could get in on actual research and for a few thousand more could buy a named author spot!
Anonymous
Do you all think that admissions offices and university faculty are somehow too stupid to figure out that these services exist and that your kid is putting fake journals on their application? You found them by googling, right? But nobody who works at a university knows how to do that, too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you all think that admissions offices and university faculty are somehow too stupid to figure out that these services exist and that your kid is putting fake journals on their application? You found them by googling, right? But nobody who works at a university knows how to do that, too?


I do think the comparison of high school published research to high school founded non-profit organization is apt. Both were things previously done only by exceptional kids but once it became something you could buy with the help of a consultant or company, admissions officers will likely see it more as pay to play (unless it’s a really good journal.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you all think that admissions offices and university faculty are somehow too stupid to figure out that these services exist and that your kid is putting fake journals on their application? You found them by googling, right? But nobody who works at a university knows how to do that, too?


I do think the comparison of high school published research to high school founded non-profit organization is apt. Both were things previously done only by exceptional kids but once it became something you could buy with the help of a consultant or company, admissions officers will likely see it more as pay to play (unless it’s a really good journal.)


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA likes a passion project….doesn’t mean published fake research….

I feel like I watch the UVA dean pretty regularly and I’ve never heard the words “passion project.” What is your source on this?


lol
No one calls it a passion project. Definitely not in admissions!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA likes a passion project….doesn’t mean published fake research….

I feel like I watch the UVA dean pretty regularly and I’ve never heard the words “passion project.” What is your source on this?


I agree that passion projects were big with UVA this cycle. No “source” other than observation. UVA seemed to favor kids with passion projects. It shows leadership, impact, creativity, and fit to major. Maybe you have heard those word used by the UVA dean?


This 💯
Anonymous
Get out of here with based on “observations.” Just no.
Anonymous
Faculty at a T20 medical school. Got an email last week from a HS freshman asking to do research this summer. It's insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Get out of here with based on “observations.” Just no.


Huh?
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