Publishing high school research
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Anonymous
That is what top colleges want to see from what I heard |
Anonymous
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They want to see intellectual curiosity. They want to seedrive. They want to see an academic interest that the kid has shown initiative in. It does not require it to be published.
Can the kid do research with a high school teacher? Present at an assembly and self submit to a high school journal or somewhere the high school teacher recommends? No requirement for publishing!! |
Anonymous
What school do you think has a high school kid present his independent research at an assembly of a captive audience of other students UNLESS that is a bogus thing all students do? |
Anonymous
Private schools do this upon teacher request/discretion. And no, not everyone does it. |
Anonymous
UVA admissions loves seeing research. Op, most kids at my DC’s private school use the pay-to-play research companies to find a mentor and have it published. Super common. They do not disclose that a service was used or that it was paid for. For the past 4 years, this has been an almost guarantee entry into a top 20 school. I know of Harvard, Dartmouth, Stanford, Columbia admits off the top of my head. I am sure AOs suspect this research is facilitated by college counselors and companies, but they don’t seem to care! It works every time. |
Anonymous
| Didn't someone report it a few days ago that the "research" kids didn't have good outcome this year? I think this is basically over like non-profit. |
Anonymous
| UVA likes a passion project….doesn’t mean published fake research…. |
Anonymous
| I personally think the hs research publishing trend is totally bs. But, that being said, I still think colleges like it. Research is one of the most frequent buzzwords in college admission sessions after the word 'holistic'. EVERY school touts its research capabilities within stem, humanities and social sciences. I think talking about research helps a student display their intellectual curiosity and initiative. It shows experience with tackling essential questions. It doesnr have to be a curated endeavor and can even be something they do on their own. My kid took a college course while in hs that had a final research paper assigned. In his college supplemental essays, he talked at length about that experience, the process, and how it fueled his interest in what he wants to do in college. No fancy company program and nothing published and no private counselor. 'Research' was related to an interest they had already started exploring years earlier. It was just 1 element of a cohesive application with a strong narrative. Kid got in early to an ivy where they genuinely plan to major in that academic area. You can use a private company to facilitate, but there are no guarantees that their service will lead to acceptances... |
Anonymous
| The real flex is publishing in middle school. |
Anonymous
Passe. My kid published in pre-k. No need to wait for formal schooling. |
Anonymous
Unimpressive unless it is dressed up to look impressive by a fake description. |
Anonymous
NP. I think you are missing the point. Research isnt about impressing people. Its about kids exploring new areas of interest outside their normal schooling. Writing, presenting, etc are great experiences. Our school offers special nights (stem/humanities) where kids present their outside work/interests and people ask questions after the presentations. Published work is not essential and i think is increasingly viewed with skepticism. Published research is like the old dated trends of starting non profits and those expensive global service trips. Nothing wrong with pay to play, but I think similar outcomes can be achieved more organically and authentically. |
Anonymous
A truly special kid may do something groundbreaking that gets published in a legit journal. But I suspect there aren’t many of those. people spend 5 years getting doctorates to attempt to publish in good journals. It’s not a small thing you can do over the summer, unless you have parent scientists or can hire someone willing to put your kid’s name on their work…. |
Anonymous
Yes but what you’re describing is normal research done in the context of a school. The publishing part would be the unusual part if the research were peer reviewed by those in the scientific community and found to add value to existing literature. But again, that’s rare for a high schooler (although a friend was saying they got a menu from a company offering papers “coauthored” with a graduate student for 5k$, with a professor for 10k$ etc… |
Anonymous
Usually $25k for peer-reviewed & reputable publication. |