How are you feeling if you kid is deciding between Harvard and another school?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Go woke, go broke, when you have deep pockets it just takes longer to get there.


It's still Harvard.


Not that you'd get in


It’s still garbage.

Not that anyone cares if you’d get in.



Sure Harvard is "garbage"


Harvard hasn't given a hoot about undergraduate education since the 1960s. And now their undergrads don't care, either: https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2024/03/university-people-the-undergraduate-balance


"One casualty of these easy A’s has been the amount of reading students do. I kept hearing from professors in my interviews that students don’t do as many readings as they used to. Russian studies professor Terry Martin told me that “Reading seems to have fallen in status or as a normative academic task.”

Indeed, three of my friends and I took a high-level seminar one semester, and, although we knew hundreds of pages of readings would be assigned each week, we were excited about the prospect of engaging with the material. As time went on, the percentage of readings each of us did went from nearly 100 to nearly 0.

In the final class, each student was asked to cite their favorite readings, and the professor was surprised that so many chose readings from the first few units. That wasn’t because the students happened to be most interested in those classes’ material; rather, that was the brief period of the course when everyone actually did some of the readings.

Despite having barely engaged with the course material, we all received A’s."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:harvard is one of a few schools that has the money to be able to do this. That’s nice and all but not that impressive, and not fair to compare to other schools with lesser funds who may be forced to capitulate in order to stay solvent.

It’s automatically impressive since no one else has done it.


That’s like saying Bill Gates deserves to be deified because he pledged to donate 1 billion dollars. Is it a big gesture and should be recognized? Sure, but it’s only 1% of his wealth. It’s more impressive if a middle class family with a net worth of 250k donates 20k , as a relative percentage of their wealth.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a pretty uninvolved alum, I sent them a large donation yesterday and will I be going out of my way to hire Harvard alums. n of 1 here but I do think there will be an energized H network in the coming years.

Interesting, bc my harvard alum friends say the opposite, they have ceased donations and look elsewhere for hiring. But harvard has a global brand, deep pockets and a strong international donor base, so time will tell.


Show me your friends, and I’ll show you your future.

Yeah, I’d find new friends …
Anonymous
An institution has to REALLY love antisemitism & discrimination in order to turn down $2 billion so they can continue them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:An institution has to REALLY love antisemitism & discrimination in order to turn down $2 billion so they can continue them.


Show us on the doll where Harvard hurt you …
Anonymous
My kid is fired up to start in the fall. He was interested in making a final decision versus Stanford until Visitas weekend, but saw enough in the last couple of days that he knew this was home. We are full pay, but we are going to be making a substantial donation as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a pretty uninvolved alum, I sent them a large donation yesterday and will I be going out of my way to hire Harvard alums. n of 1 here but I do think there will be an energized H network in the coming years.

Interesting, bc my harvard alum friends say the opposite, they have ceased donations and look elsewhere for hiring. But harvard has a global brand, deep pockets and a strong international donor base, so time will tell.


No Harvard has not stopped taking donations. Your post is gibberish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:An institution has to REALLY love antisemitism & discrimination in order to turn down $2 billion so they can continue them.


You haven’t read everything have you? And you don’t have the capacity to read between lines. Trump doesn’t care about antisemitism or anti Muslim or anything similar. It’s all of the other demands he made in that would have him dictating what they teach, who they teach and keeping track of what professors, administrators and students are doing. He wants the government to be the thought police.

And the antisemitism claims are so weak that they are moving towards giving protests terrorist labels because Trump is claiming they are pro Hamas. Both are ludicrous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:harvard is one of a few schools that has the money to be able to do this. That’s nice and all but not that impressive, and not fair to compare to other schools with lesser funds who may be forced to capitulate in order to stay solvent.

It’s automatically impressive since no one else has done it.


Hillsdale and Grove City beg to differ.


Yeah, just think of those important scientific discoveries coming out of Hillsdale lol.

I guess they ARE contributing all that Project 2024 bs to our society tho. Maybe they should have taken that federal funding and given those students a crack at a real education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:An institution has to REALLY love antisemitism & discrimination in order to turn down $2 billion so they can continue them.


Yeah, doesn’t make sense, does it? Keep up with the critical thinking; you are almost there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Curoius how others in this position are navigating these uncertain times....


My DC switched from Harvard to UNC. He is very disappointed with Harvard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Go woke, go broke, when you have deep pockets it just takes longer to get there.


It's still Harvard.


Not that you'd get in


It’s still garbage.

Not that anyone cares if you’d get in.



Sure Harvard is "garbage"


Harvard hasn't given a hoot about undergraduate education since the 1960s. And now their undergrads don't care, either: https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2024/03/university-people-the-undergraduate-balance


"One casualty of these easy A’s has been the amount of reading students do. I kept hearing from professors in my interviews that students don’t do as many readings as they used to. Russian studies professor Terry Martin told me that “Reading seems to have fallen in status or as a normative academic task.”

Indeed, three of my friends and I took a high-level seminar one semester, and, although we knew hundreds of pages of readings would be assigned each week, we were excited about the prospect of engaging with the material. As time went on, the percentage of readings each of us did went from nearly 100 to nearly 0.

In the final class, each student was asked to cite their favorite readings, and the professor was surprised that so many chose readings from the first few units. That wasn’t because the students happened to be most interested in those classes’ material; rather, that was the brief period of the course when everyone actually did some of the readings.

Despite having barely engaged with the course material, we all received A’s."


Grades are meaningless.
If you can't learn without the threat of a B, you never belonged there in the first place. Harvard education is for adults.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:they lost my goodwill forever when all the incriminating data came to light during the SFFA trial.

Same. Harvard isn’t what it was.



Neither is America. People standing by as Trump destroys what took years to build. History in the making.


Yes it took years to build the advanced grift system to scam Americans taxpayers and that gravy train is gone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they lost my goodwill forever when all the incriminating data came to light during the SFFA trial.

Same. Harvard isn’t what it was.



Neither is America. People standing by as Trump destroys what took years to build. History in the making.


Yes it took years to build the advanced grift system to scam Americans taxpayers and that gravy train is gone.


When they turn to whatever you hold dear (reservations at Golden Corral, livestock feed subsidies, foreign aid for Israel, whatever), your sarcasm will just be a sloppy lump in your throat.
Anonymous
There’s no escaping this craziness. Who knows what school will be next. Just keep in mind that most undergraduate students are not affected in any tangible way. (I’m a Columbia parent).
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