College Admissions Doesn't Need to Be So Competitive: Super High Stat Kids are not "a dime a dozen."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Then the downers on this board will tell you 98% on AP Physics EM is "a dime a dozen."

[Anonymous]

I prefer holistic to not holistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Who cares? You’re not at Harvard. Your kid isn’t at Harvard. Why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Agree. Harvard adding remedial ALGEBRA is insane. There are literally no excuses for it. Most kids finish algebra in 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is this person and why should I care what they think?

I googled them and only saw "google scholar" and some random websites come up.

OP is probably the person who wrote the substack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I prefer holistic to not holistic.

Only to a degree.

The same thing could be said to the holistic zealots. If your whole life revolves around getting in a “top college” by holistic approach, maybe you need to reevaluate your priorities. Life is more than college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Who cares? You’re not at Harvard. Your kid isn’t at Harvard. Why do you care?

its a sad reflection of "holistic" admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Who cares? You’re not at Harvard. Your kid isn’t at Harvard. Why do you care?

its a sad reflection of "holistic" admissions

Then go to a school without holistic admissions. Harvard doesn’t care about you. They’re doing just fine. CalTech is very meritocratic. If your kid is good enough they’ll get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Agree. Harvard adding remedial ALGEBRA is insane. There are literally no excuses for it. Most kids finish algebra in 9th grade.

it's okay if you don't read an article - whatevs. but don't yell at us in ALL CAPS just proving you can't read past a headline (and then misinterpret that)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The College board needs to release raw scores for the AP tests. That way MIT and Cornell can see whether your 5 on Physics EM was a 98% or a 61%.

We throw away a lot of information that could be useful for everyone in the process.

Sure, if the goal is to assemble a class of kids who test well.

as opposed to a class of kids who need remedial math at harvard

Agree. Harvard adding remedial ALGEBRA is insane. There are literally no excuses for it. Most kids finish algebra in 9th grade.

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[Anonymous]

I went to read the article thinking I would disagree with it, but I actually agree with it. I definitely prefer holistic admissions to stats only admissions. However, holistic admissions should also take stats into account, and right now the stats system is inflated and dysfunctional, leading to an EC arms race that is even more stressful than a test-prep arms race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed. T20 universities and T10 lacs admit too many hooked applicants. If they are admitting over 20% QuestBridge, they should increase their class proportionally.

Nobody is admitt 20% QB. It is under 2% at most schools so just stop now.

[Anonymous]

Most people saying US schools should be more like foreign schools don't actually want to go to those foreign schools over top US schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You will only hear “a dime a dozen” to describe a high stats kid here on dcum. In reality there are only a couple thousand these high stats > 1550 in the real world.

1530/1540 is the actual 1% mark from the College Board. That means there are about 20,000 scores at or above 1530 and 10,000+ at 1550.