The one question every single person in Europe asks me

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Anonymous wrote:Taxpayers don’t tend to protest layoffs in the bureaucracy


This is different. Almost every single act Musk and Trump have taken have been illegal. If it had been done the right way, like Clinton, who got an actual bill passed with overwhelming support from Congress, it would be different.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been in london, France and Germany and everyone wants to talk politics and every single person has the same q: why are Americans not at very least protesting if not striking or rioting in the streets. I don’t know, bc I grew up in the uk where we do strike and protest I think more, what to tell them. Why aren’t we? Why are we just rolling over and letting Trump do this to our country?


Actually I was reading an article last night that showed a lot of large protests going on that the media is not covering.....I wonder why This is from Hitler play book.....create the narrative and keep media in line. People need to wake up and yes we need to get bigger and louder.


This. A huge number of people are protesting but ever since Vietnam protests are no longer covered in the media. Hundreds of thousands of people protested the invasion of Iraq, but the media ignored it.

Hundreds of thousands are protesting now (if you add up the demonstrations all over the country) but the media isn't covering it.

Also, one national demonstration with hundreds of thousands of people protesting takes months to organize, and people here aren't the types to illegally take to the streets especially with a President who doesn't care about the law and has actually declared that he will send US citizens to El Salvadoran prisons if they don't fall in line.

We already know from polling that 100+ million Americans are strongly opposed to Trump’s actions. What good does having 100,000 people marching around do?
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been in london, France and Germany and everyone wants to talk politics and every single person has the same q: why are Americans not at very least protesting if not striking or rioting in the streets. I don’t know, bc I grew up in the uk where we do strike and protest I think more, what to tell them. Why aren’t we? Why are we just rolling over and letting Trump do this to our country?


Actually I was reading an article last night that showed a lot of large protests going on that the media is not covering.....I wonder why This is from Hitler play book.....create the narrative and keep media in line. People need to wake up and yes we need to get bigger and louder.


This. A huge number of people are protesting but ever since Vietnam protests are no longer covered in the media. Hundreds of thousands of people protested the invasion of Iraq, but the media ignored it.

Hundreds of thousands are protesting now (if you add up the demonstrations all over the country) but the media isn't covering it.

Also, one national demonstration with hundreds of thousands of people protesting takes months to organize, and people here aren't the types to illegally take to the streets especially with a President who doesn't care about the law and has actually declared that he will send US citizens to El Salvadoran prisons if they don't fall in line.

We already know from polling that 100+ million Americans are strongly opposed to Trump’s actions. What good does having 100,000 people marching around do?


The question was, from Europeans, why are people not in the streets? My answer is that they are. The question of whether or not it is strategic and the best use of our resources to take to the streets and stop the regular functioning of society, as often happens in Europe, is a valid one. It is also not the one I was addressing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with a lot of what Trump says and does. Trump won an election fair and square, so what should I be protesting? He's allowed to completely overhaul trade, security, taxation, and the way the govt is run. That's what the people voted for. I do agree with him on some big issues like it was a catastrophic mistake listening to the elite tell us we needed to offshore everything in terms of manufacturing. Complete decimation of our manufacturing base was so epically stupid. I agree that many of our allies have taken advantage of our generosity for far too long and wow, look at that, all of the sudden Europe finds $800B to spend on their own defense. Amazing. I do agree we need to get very rough on people for flooding our country with fentanyl. DEI at work got completely out of hand.Trump is absolutely right on immigration.

Again, I may disagree with what a lot of what Trump does wrt constitutional law, crypto, and firing of feds. But he won the election.


One thing I consistently see people ignoring when discussing policy is the means by which he is seeking to enact his preferred policies. The way the administration is going about enacting policy change leans, ahem, heavily autocratic. We can disagree about policies but we should ALL be concerned with the methods he is utilizing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with a lot of what Trump says and does. Trump won an election fair and square, so what should I be protesting? He's allowed to completely overhaul trade, security, taxation, and the way the govt is run. That's what the people voted for. I do agree with him on some big issues like it was a catastrophic mistake listening to the elite tell us we needed to offshore everything in terms of manufacturing. Complete decimation of our manufacturing base was so epically stupid. I agree that many of our allies have taken advantage of our generosity for far too long and wow, look at that, all of the sudden Europe finds $800B to spend on their own defense. Amazing. I do agree we need to get very rough on people for flooding our country with fentanyl. DEI at work got completely out of hand.Trump is absolutely right on immigration.

Again, I may disagree with what a lot of what Trump does wrt constitutional law, crypto, and firing of feds. But he won the election.


One thing I consistently see people ignoring when discussing policy is the means by which he is seeking to enact his preferred policies. The way the administration is going about enacting policy change leans, ahem, heavily autocratic. We can disagree about policies but we should ALL be concerned with the methods he is utilizing.


I agree completely. I worked for organizations that focused on human rights and rule of law for years. I can tell you that this President and his lackeys (especially Musk) are undermining the rule of law in our society, which is one of the first steps in becoming a dictatorship. I really hope that we, as a nation, wake up to this fact. If those on the right think this won't eventually bite them in the ass, they are being naive. It will impact all of us, regardless of political party.
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All my trips to Europe since January, the most common sentiment is that they wish a Trump-like leader would help them with their immigration issues. They are envious of a leader who actually gets things done
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Anonymous wrote:All my trips to Europe since January, the most common sentiment is that they wish a Trump-like leader would help them with their immigration issues. They are envious of a leader who actually gets things done


Since January, I have been in Hungary, Austria, and the UK. Absolutely none of the locals with whom I spoke have thought that Trump was a good thing for the US.
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Anonymous wrote:All my trips to Europe since January, the most common sentiment is that they wish a Trump-like leader would help them with their immigration issues. They are envious of a leader who actually gets things done

So in other words you’ve never actually been to Europe.
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Anonymous wrote:Fascinating article on a recent large protest in Denver. https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/gps-data-reveals-bernie-sanders-aoc-rally-was-artificial-full-antifablm-pro-hamas-pro


lol - come back to me when zerohedge is not your information source 😂


https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1903677337406992400


If you believe that they can tell this from people's cell phone data, then there's probably no conspiracy theory you won't believe:

84% of the devices present had attended 9 or more Kamala Harris rallies, antifa/blm, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian protests, 31% had attended over 20.
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The problem we face is that the electorate doesn’t consider Democrats particularly good on rule of law stuff. Yes, everyone agrees Trump is bad, but most people don’t think Dems are any great shakes. So a generic Republican is still polling way ahead of a generic Democrat for 2028 President.
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Anonymous wrote:All my trips to Europe since January, the most common sentiment is that they wish a Trump-like leader would help them with their immigration issues. They are envious of a leader who actually gets things done


I've heard a bit of that in Europe, but it's always been from people who hate immigrants--and, in every case, the country depends on immigrants as much as we do to do all their shitty jobs. And in every case the country has even lower birthrates than the US does.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem we face is that the electorate doesn’t consider Democrats particularly good on rule of law stuff. Yes, everyone agrees Trump is bad, but most people don’t think Dems are any great shakes. So a generic Republican is still polling way ahead of a generic Democrat for 2028 President.


Link?
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Anonymous wrote:Fascinating article on a recent large protest in Denver. https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/gps-data-reveals-bernie-sanders-aoc-rally-was-artificial-full-antifablm-pro-hamas-pro


lol - come back to me when zerohedge is not your information source 😂


https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1903677337406992400


If you believe that they can tell this from people's cell phone data, then there's probably no conspiracy theory you won't believe:

84% of the devices present had attended 9 or more Kamala Harris rallies, antifa/blm, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian protests, 31% had attended over 20.


You’re probably right. It makes more sense that Coloradans spontaneously took to the streets to defend DC bureaucrats “right” to lifetime tenured employment st taxpayer expense.
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Anonymous wrote:All my trips to Europe since January, the most common sentiment is that they wish a Trump-like leader would help them with their immigration issues. They are envious of a leader who actually gets things done

So in other words you’ve never actually been to Europe.


Different poster here, but we had people in France express the same to us when we were there right before the election.
Anonymous
Americans are protesting rule by unelected billionaire exactly the way Europe is. Tesla is tanking on both sides of the Atlantic.
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