The US possibly losing their status as a democracy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be silly, OP. Remember when your truckers had their bank accounts confiscated? We remember.

You do know that it was a civil lawsuit by the citizens of the City of Ottawa (not the federal government) that initiated that law suit. The truckers harassed local Ottawa citizens who live in the neighbourhood in which they occupied.

Just to note that those truckers were flying Nazi, Proud Boys, and other white supremacy flags, and were supported by right-wing supremacy groups in the US. They were even flying the Confederacy flag around. How does that flag speak to Canadian history?

“Citizens group wins court-ordered freeze of convoy protest accounts, cryptocurrency” https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/citizens-group-wins-court-ordered-freeze-of-convoy-protest-accounts-cryptocurrency/article_3a5a5637-ec23-576d-ac22-91482a7667f1.html

Wow, this is such BS! It certainly was a federal lawsuit. And those truckers were flying Canadian flags - lots and lots of them - none of the other flags you list were there. What a ridiculous claim. -DP

A weeks-long blockade in the Canadian capital has led to almost 200 arrests and prolonged suffering for businesses caught in the middle of protests against Covid-19 mandates.

Canadian authorities on Sunday froze the finances associated with certain individuals and companies believed to be involved in the ongoing protests in Ottawa, according to Mike Duheme, Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) deputy commissioner of federal policing.

The RCMP froze 206 financial products, including bank and corporate accounts; disclosed the information of 56 entities associated with vehicles, individuals and companies; shared 253 bitcoin addresses with virtual currency exchangers; and froze a payment processing account valued at $3.8 million, Duheme said at a news conference.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20/americas/canada-trucker-protest-covid-sunday/index.html

More than 200 bank accounts worth nearly $8 million were frozen when the federal government used emergency powers to end a massive protest occupation of downtown Ottawa.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-finance-committee-1.6360769

This is your white supremacy movement in Canada. Here you go:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0w52V1toNw

https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covid-trucker-convoy-organizers-hate/amp/

https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/02/canada-dispatch-making-sense-of-the-flags-and-symbols-at-the-ottawa-protest/

Of course there were some bad actors - just as there are at ANY protest. That has nothing to do with the mission and message of the truck convoy. But I'm sure you'll continue to look idiotic and insist all those truckers and people supporting them, waving Canadian flags, were just "white supremacists."

Okay Pierre Polliviere

Bad actors? It’s abominable to be a part of a movement that did not call out those people flying the nazi etc flags. You are complicit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If we can’t save our democracy by voting, because we are outnumbered by Republican voters, then we have to save our democracy by any means necessary.

This HAS to be a troll, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Canadian and our international eyes are watching what is happening in the US with the new administration. I know many of you on DCUM are in disagreement for how your leadership is handling domestic and international politics. I never imagined that the US would be on the list for potentially losing their democratic status. I know many of you care about this possible demotion, and maybe this will help mobilize your Democrat and Independent voters. I would love your feedback.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

This was a little misleading. The US is at risk of being downgraded to the same status as Canada.

The US Constitutional Framers were well aware that demagogues like Trump would appear from time to time and structured the Constitution to contain them.

Trump can issue all the EOs he wants, but any one of them can be shot down by a federal judge. Don't fall for the political theatrics. Trump loves to create chaos and drama. Much of Trump's nonsense will be rolled back by the independent judiciary. It will just take time for the judicial process to catch up.

There is zero chance that Trump will be able to take over as an autocrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Canadian and our international eyes are watching what is happening in the US with the new administration. I know many of you on DCUM are in disagreement for how your leadership is handling domestic and international politics. I never imagined that the US would be on the list for potentially losing their democratic status. I know many of you care about this possible demotion, and maybe this will help mobilize your Democrat and Independent voters. I would love your feedback.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

It’s the opposite.
The US was not a democracy anymore. Wokism had suppressed free speech.
Now, democracy is actually being restored in the US.
Canada and Europe keep moving away from democracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If we can’t save our democracy by voting, because we are outnumbered by Republican voters, then we have to save our democracy by any means necessary.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

[Anonymous]

We voted to do away with democracy. It’s all good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Canadian and our international eyes are watching what is happening in the US with the new administration. I know many of you on DCUM are in disagreement for how your leadership is handling domestic and international politics. I never imagined that the US would be on the list for potentially losing their democratic status. I know many of you care about this possible demotion, and maybe this will help mobilize your Democrat and Independent voters. I would love your feedback.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

It’s the opposite.
The US was not a democracy anymore. Wokism had suppressed free speech.
Now, democracy is actually being restored in the US.
Canada and Europe keep moving away from democracy.

We see you, MAGA. You are right wing extremists that want to create another civil war etc… How is it living in your mom’s basement these days? Are you able to jerk off without your mom hearing you?

[Anonymous]

The US has been associated with a "flawed democracy" since 2017 and there's no sign of improvement.

https://www.eiu.com/n/democracy-index-2024/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Canadian and our international eyes are watching what is happening in the US with the new administration. I know many of you on DCUM are in disagreement for how your leadership is handling domestic and international politics. I never imagined that the US would be on the list for potentially losing their democratic status. I know many of you care about this possible demotion, and maybe this will help mobilize your Democrat and Independent voters. I would love your feedback.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

Completely agree, although USA has been associated with a flawed democracy since 2017, coinciding with the first Trump administration. It looks like things will get worse in 2025


https://www.eiu.com/n/democracy-index-2024/

[Anonymous]

Democracy is a means to achieving freedom.

I’m no libertarian. At all. I think it’s a closed mindset.

But we need to get back to core principles of individual freedom, RULE OF LAW, government as protecting our freedoms (not limiting), and of course some social limitations against freedoms that infringe on others.

We need to apply these principles to all questions; to all people left and right. No favoritism for our “sides.”

Going against principles, as a win for a side, has eroded all of it. Stop defending your side. Defend freedom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:20:35, We Americans saw for ourselves on live tv news what the Canadian government did to INNOCENT truckers.

We Americans supported those truckers en mass, as well as the truckers across Europe.

No WE did not support the truckers. How can you call someone “innocent” who was blaring their air horn all day just to psychologically destroy their fellow citizens?

Day and night

[Anonymous]

MAGA is happy to do away with the Constitution. I don’t think they’ve considered any new system probably won’t allow them to have guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democracy is a means to achieving freedom.

I’m no libertarian. At all. I think it’s a closed mindset.

But we need to get back to core principles of individual freedom, RULE OF LAW, government as protecting our freedoms (not limiting), and of course some social limitations against freedoms that infringe on others.

We need to apply these principles to all questions; to all people left and right. No favoritism for our “sides.”

Going against principles, as a win for a side, has eroded all of it. Stop defending your side. Defend freedom.

100%. This is the crux of the problem. The stupid, childish, immature, focus on “winning”. The dangerous “Us versus Them” mentality played out as Dems versus Republicans, libs versus magas, feds versus private, nations versus nations. This mentality might give some people BDE but it’s inherently destructive.

[Anonymous]

What we need is total new parties. The red and blue has had its time and should end. We need to end this division as it has gotten out of control and cost us so much. I remember after 9/11 we were so united it was comforting.

[Anonymous]

US hasn't been a democracy for a while. Ever since Citizens United.

Americans can't vote and run the country.... it's run by corporations and other mega donors.