"I couldn't fully commit to the idea that there is nothing out there" - Overcoming the fear that has been instilled in you through most of your life both through direct teaching (you were raised protestant) and society/culture (christianity is the majority religion in the US) is typically the last step to realizing truth. It's a shame you have not yet been able to reach it, but I respect your search. |
I think you may have misunderstood my story. It wasn't out of fear that I rejected atheism (which I never committed to) or agnosticism. I wasn't afraid of the possibility of nothingness or the uncertainty of not knowing; I embraced the unknown of God's existence and largely lived my formative years without God. I realized when presented with atheist certainty that there is no God, that I did, in fact, believe there is a God, and that my issue was simply with the Christian understanding of God, rather than God's existence itself. I'm not still reaching or searching for a truth. For me, Judaism is it. |
Thank you for the clarification and additional insight. |
Perhaps your atheist friend expressed certainty, but atheism simply means not having a religion and/or not believing in God: a - theism. Nothing about certainty. In fact, most atheists will acknowledge that you can't be certain about any invisible entity, like God or fairies. I am an atheist because I studied religion and found it to be man-made. I also am scientifically savvy and don't believe in any other invisible beings (e.g., fairies) and I see that humans have no expectations for their believed pets to live forever (they put them to "sleep"). So at some point, giving up the idea of God and everlasting life in heaven seemed natural. Though it wasn't easy to give up the concept of living forever in heaven. Once I gave up that idea, I started to enjoy my life here on earth more, knowing it's the only one I have and I'm lucky to have it. |
So you think of aliens as being supernatural, but you have no way of knowing that they are. It sounds like something you simply decided - you made it up and you believe it. |
What were your original doubts about agnosticism? How did you settle on Judaism when Christians and Muslims all are technically worshipping the same God? Did you consider any non-Abrahamic? |
Uh...no. Christians do not believe this. |
I was agnostic from middle school through early college. It was really talking to my friend who had been raised atheist and who was certain that God does not exist that caused me to reevaluate how certain I was about God. My understanding of atheism and agnosticism was that atheism was a rejection of God's existence and agnosticism was a state of saying, "maybe, maybe not." I recognize that may not be how everyone defines atheism or agnosticism; I'm just telling you how I related to agnosticism and atheism, because the ways I defined them at the time impacted how I defined myself. Anyway, my reaction to my atheist friend's certainty that God didn't exist was certainty in my own mind that God did exist, which honestly surprised me after so long living as if there were no God. It didn't feel right to continue to call myself agnostic if I felt this certainty that God existed (again, because my understanding of agnosticism was about uncertainty), so I went looking to reconnect with God. I didn't start with Judaism. I actually started with other denominations of Christianity - Presbyterian, Lutheran, Congregationalist, Catholicism, and even Unitarian Universalism. But too much of Christian theology still didn't make sense to me (the Trinity, Original Sin, Heaven and Hell). Jewish theology is a much better fit for me. No, I didn't consider any non-Abrahamic religions. Maybe if I had lived in an area where they were more common, I would have, but ultimately, the thought processes and theological underpinnings of Judaism were what drew me to it, and I don't think anything else would have been quite "right" for me. |
Yes, DH was raised Catholic. We raised our children Catholic and they attend Catholic high school. |
What God are Christians worshipping, in your opinion? And how does it differ from the Jewish and Muslim God? |
Non-Christian here, but it seems like they worship Jesus more than God. And, I know, I know, Jesus IS God somehow, but my guess is that if you don't worship Jesus, you're not worshipping the same God, or not doing it correctly? *shrug* |
Not true at all. I can think of many people that I know personally who found Christ as an adult. |
Non-religious people? With no religious upbringing who "found christ" from a vacuum? I am not saying there are none, but your claim of "many" of the above, I call BS. |
I don't know if I'd say "just don't and never did." I think American Protestants have a tendency to say belief = certainty and I have never felt certain. But I think that is a very limited idea of belief that doesn't leave room for doubt as a form of wrestling with doubt, or hope, or actual practice, which are all parts of Christian life and better appreciated in Catholic and Orthodox traditions. Is taking communion a form of faith? I think so. |
Well, you would be wrong. Yes, non-religious people. No, they did not come to Christ in what I assume you mean by a vacuum. Some of them had hit hard or bad places in their lives, and turned back to God. They found a supportive friend, or Christian counselor, or a strong church, and found their way there. Others realized that they had been living what they viewed as fun but ultimately unfulfilling lives, and sought more. God has a way of putting people in our lives when we are searching, to help lead them back to Him. It happened to me, although I had been raised in a Protestant church so not non-religious in upbringing. |