Admin Leave - what are you telling your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that the bark is worse than the bite and there are very few people who aren't still getting their paycheck, if any.

You dont need to tell your kids anything because nothing has happened to you. You can talk about changes in government if you think they're interested. You can talk about logistics changes if your in office days are changing.

If you are laid off you tell them it's fine and that you'll be making responsible choices to keep the family running.

You dont need to be dramatic.

Ooo, op you clearly don't know anyone who worked with USAID. There are thousands of contractor and implementer orgs that worked for USAID that are out of jobs!!!

Both out of a job and not well positioned to easily get another because of the glut of job seekers and now limited opportunities in the field. My friend is a single parent usaid contractor who got laid off this week. She’s not telling her high schoolers “it will be fine” because in all likelihood, it will not be. She’s weighing pulling the kids from school, renting out her home, and moving in with parents out of state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that the bark is worse than the bite and there are very few people who aren't still getting their paycheck, if any.

You dont need to tell your kids anything because nothing has happened to you. You can talk about changes in government if you think they're interested. You can talk about logistics changes if your in office days are changing.

If you are laid off you tell them it's fine and that you'll be making responsible choices to keep the family running.

You dont need to be dramatic.

Ooo, op you clearly don't know anyone who worked with USAID. There are thousands of contractor and implementer orgs that worked for USAID that are out of jobs!!!

Both out of a job and not well positioned to easily get another because of the glut of job seekers and now limited opportunities in the field. My friend is a single parent usaid contractor who got laid off this week. She’s not telling her high schoolers “it will be fine” because in all likelihood, it will not be. She’s weighing pulling the kids from school, renting out her home, and moving in with parents out of state.

Dramatic much. She can get a restaurant job. Her high schoolers can work. They can get a roommate if they have an extra room. Helplessness is learned when you have a good job. She should be able to go back to basics. Most of us started this way. She doesn't have toddlers to keep her from working 1.5 jobs and she does have a work permit.

[Anonymous]

Stop gaslighting people, saying they’re being dramatic, when they are concerned about their livelihoods and the effect the admin’s decisions are having on their families.

[Anonymous]

Educating kids that that there is real evil behind these decisions made by those two people seen on TV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that the bark is worse than the bite and there are very few people who aren't still getting their paycheck, if any.

You dont need to tell your kids anything because nothing has happened to you. You can talk about changes in government if you think they're interested. You can talk about logistics changes if your in office days are changing.

If you are laid off you tell them it's fine and that you'll be making responsible choices to keep the family running.

You dont need to be dramatic.

Ooo, op you clearly don't know anyone who worked with USAID. There are thousands of contractor and implementer orgs that worked for USAID that are out of jobs!!!

Both out of a job and not well positioned to easily get another because of the glut of job seekers and now limited opportunities in the field. My friend is a single parent usaid contractor who got laid off this week. She’s not telling her high schoolers “it will be fine” because in all likelihood, it will not be. She’s weighing pulling the kids from school, renting out her home, and moving in with parents out of state.

Dramatic much. She can get a restaurant job. Her high schoolers can work. They can get a roommate if they have an extra room. Helplessness is learned when you have a good job. She should be able to go back to basics. Most of us started this way. She doesn't have toddlers to keep her from working 1.5 jobs and she does have a work permit.

Seriously pp. You just be one of those pimply high schoolers muskrats because you clearly have never had the responsibility of being a parents and truly hope you never do with this level callousness. Or you're just a bot. Which proves nicely why we should NOT be pursuing a world run by AI.

[Anonymous]

I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

It would be easier to support them if they hadn’t previously been so smug about their impenetrable job security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

It would be easier to support them if they hadn’t previously been so smug about their impenetrable job security.

Ah so you were previously jealous and now you’re in misery loves company mode. Got it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

It would be easier to support them if they hadn’t previously been so smug about their impenetrable job security.

You are viewing the federal workforce as a faceless unpersonal group, and applying a stereotype. That is fine in some contexts.
But here we are talking about actual people with real concerns about unemployment. You have no idea if these actual humans were every smug in any way.
Whether or not anyone thinks that objectively lay offs should occur, on a human level, job insecurity is hard- whether it is in the federal sector or the private sector. Empathy would do everybody some good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

It would be easier to support them if they hadn’t previously been so smug about their impenetrable job security.

So “they deserve my abuse.” You are pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that the bark is worse than the bite and there are very few people who aren't still getting their paycheck, if any.

You dont need to tell your kids anything because nothing has happened to you. You can talk about changes in government if you think they're interested. You can talk about logistics changes if your in office days are changing.

If you are laid off you tell them it's fine and that you'll be making responsible choices to keep the family running.

You dont need to be dramatic.

Ooo, op you clearly don't know anyone who worked with USAID. There are thousands of contractor and implementer orgs that worked for USAID that are out of jobs!!!

This happens at private sector every day.

are you the same poster on every thread? do you realize how people take government jobs with expectation of lower pay but better stability/benefits and they have specialized skills that don't exist in private sector (usaid). i'm not even a federal employee and cannot understand these repeated dumb comments

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously other than DEI folks and EPA’s EJ folks, who else?

At ED they put a bunch of people on Admin Leave for taking DEI trainings but who didnt work for the DEI office or do DEI as their main job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids this age. There is no way to tell them anything but the truth. They would worry more if we tried to hide it from them.

Just be matter of fact. This happened. We have plenty of savings. We may need to cut back a bit but everything is going to be fine.

The same thing any private sector parent says to a kid after a layoff.

Man, you Feds are so precious aren’t you! Acting like the first people to ever be laid off in the history of man.

Oh calm down. People are seeking support, not suggesting that they are the only ones who ever experienced a layoff.

It would be easier to support them if they hadn’t previously been so smug about their impenetrable job security.

You are viewing the federal workforce as a faceless unpersonal group, and applying a stereotype. That is fine in some contexts.
But here we are talking about actual people with real concerns about unemployment. You have no idea if these actual humans were every smug in any way.
Whether or not anyone thinks that objectively lay offs should occur, on a human level, job insecurity is hard- whether it is in the federal sector or the private sector. Empathy would do everybody some good.

There is empathy. But there is also growing annoyance at the woe is me crowd.

The person posting this has has no changes to their job or pay. So 6 pages of looking for empathy for exactly no reason. Just give it a rest. Do what you need to save and cut back, do your best in your workplace at the moment, and keep your options open elsewhere.

We are all in disbelief at what an idiot Trump is. But this running around gnashing teeth stuff is what his crowd is hoping for.

[Anonymous]

Admin leave with pay is a vacation