Will USAID really be permanently shut down?

[Anonymous]

Yes it will be shut down. We have seen the internal lists. It is being completely shut down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes it will be shut down. We have seen the internal lists. It is being completely shut down.

You’ve seen random lists of grants you think are “stupid.” This is not a scandal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m disgusted by the level of grift. Who is the auditor of USAID?

That would be Congress. Take it up with them if you think USAID or any other govt agency has an unacceptable level of grift rather than taking the word of an unelected South African billionaire with a drug problem whose intention is to distract the sheeple from what he's really doing with his DOGE team's access to trillions of dollars of payments via the US Treasury.

The fact that all it takes to convince these people is Elon Musk telling them "I totally found lots of grift, here's a ctrl+F of 'Lutheran' as proof!" just further proves everyone calling them brainwashed morons right.

DOGE has produced literally zero credible evidence of any of their claims. Prove me wrong, mouth-breathers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m disgusted by the level of grift. Who is the auditor of USAID?

USAID has/had their own OIG. If it's absorbed by State, it would make sense that oversight would fall on State's OIG.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting USAID under state has been thrown around by lots of administrations. Congress has always wanted to keep it separate so they can have more budget oversight. There are pros and cons. Moving USAID under State is not the worst idea. The problem is the way it is being done.

100% agree. This is the case for a lot of what they are doing, actually. Let's go to the office more - yes. Let's cut wasteful spending and programs - yes. Get rid of federal employees who are habitual low performers - yes. But the way they are going about it is not going to work for a so many reasons. So all the things that need to happen, won't end up happening. And we're back to the drawing board.

+googolplex

Finally, a voice of reason and sanity on these boards!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it will be shut down. We have seen the internal lists. It is being completely shut down.

You’ve seen random lists of grants you think are “stupid.” This is not a scandal.

No, I mean internal lists of employees being RIFed. Its over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it will be shut down. We have seen the internal lists. It is being completely shut down.

You’ve seen random lists of grants you think are “stupid.” This is not a scandal.

No, I mean internal lists of employees being RIFed. Its over.

Are they following RIF procedures? That would be amazing given their contempt for the law.

[Anonymous]

How come there are no lawsuits?? We all know it’s illegal and shouldn’t there be a lawsuit to stop this from happening? What am I missing??

[Anonymous]

Several lawsuits coming, possibly by tonight. But it’s Congress that has been shamefully silent while Elon has deep sixed the legislative branch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it will be shut down. We have seen the internal lists. It is being completely shut down.

You’ve seen random lists of grants you think are “stupid.” This is not a scandal.

No, I mean internal lists of employees being RIFed. Its over.

So you work there?

[Anonymous]

Only 294 employees will be retained. Out of 14,000. Only 12 left in Africa.



https://x.com/Atul_Gawande/status/1887605173255630915

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How come there are no lawsuits?? We all know it’s illegal and shouldn’t there be a lawsuit to stop this from happening? What am I missing??

This. I'm so surprised. Elon tweeted about dismantling USAID over the weekend. All the news came out early in the week. Here we are Thursday afternoon and still no lawsuit filed on USAID. I hear from the Hill and from legal experts how this is an unconstitutional powergrab. So why hasn't anyone filed yet? Why haven't the Dems filed? Why hasn't AFSA?

AFSA put out a press release yesterday about lawsuits coming in the "next few days". WTF!! People are on admin leave tomorrow and flying back as early as this weekend. What's taking them so long? They seem to lack all urgency.

They should have spent all of Mon/Tues with lawyers pushing for a TRO to stop the admin leave and definitely stop the closing of missions abroad. I wonder if lack of funding/timidness to sign onto legal debt w/ the highest priced attorneys was at play. But this is an extinction-level event that required guts and urgency. (And I bet a USAID Legal Defense Fund would raise a ton of cash from millions that do NOT want to see this happen.) But that's just a guess. The real (sad) take is that Elon's blitz shock and awe move won against bureaucrats who couldn't quickly enough to stop it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting USAID under state has been thrown around by lots of administrations. Congress has always wanted to keep it separate so they can have more budget oversight. There are pros and cons. Moving USAID under State is not the worst idea. The problem is the way it is being done.

100% agree. This is the case for a lot of what they are doing, actually. Let's go to the office more - yes. Let's cut wasteful spending and programs - yes. Get rid of federal employees who are habitual low performers - yes. But the way they are going about it is not going to work for a so many reasons. So all the things that need to happen, won't end up happening. And we're back to the drawing board.

I don't think it's that easy, since a common theme in all these threads, and I am a fed supporter, is that feds cannot describe what they do and if it's mission critical. They cannot step outside of themselves and give credible answers to exactly what they do. I asked it specifically and was ignored. Maybe it's too outing, IDK. But if consultants go in and do this for them, a la office space, it's going to be over.

[Anonymous]

NYT: The Trump administration will reduce the number of workers at the U.S. Agency for International Development from more than 10,000 to about 290 positions, three people with knowledge of the plans said on Thursday.

The small group of remaining staff includes employees who specialize in health and humanitarian assistance, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not allowed to publicly discuss the cuts.

A spokeswoman for the State Department did not immediately return a request for comment.

U.S.A.I.D. officials were also told on Thursday that about 800 awards and contracts administered through the agency were being canceled, the three people said.

The moves also came just one day before almost all of the agency’s direct hires, including its roster of foreign service officers, will be put on indefinite administrative leave, while almost all contractors will see their work orders terminated. Foreign service officers will have 30 days to return to the United States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only 294 employees will be retained. Out of 14,000. Only 12 left in Africa.



https://x.com/Atul_Gawande/status/1887605173255630915

Unbelievable. So disheartened to see this.