Supreme Court to hear case on opting out of lessons with LGBTQ+ books

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

Opting out means a teacher will never use the material. They would need to have an alternate lesson for that student and also an alternate supervised spot for them to be.

Nope, not doing it. Come for me Clarence!
-mcps teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

Except the kids being opted out are the ones that need to know it’s ok and normal to be gay or be part of a gay family.

You know what my kids conversations are on this very issue, they don't care that you're gay, they don't care who you kiss, they don't want to talk about it because they don't want to talk about sex stuff. It's really that simple for kids, you just don't get it. Why are we overcomplicating kids, if they don't want to be part of it I'm sure they have genuine feelings why that is, and their feelings matter just as much as the LGBT kids' feelings matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

It quickly becomes chaos. Opt kids out of evolution in biology, books in English, topics in history.

Things parents can opt their kids out of:
Sex Ed
Field Trips
Required Vaccinations (and I’m not talking about COVID)
Dissections
Attendance on religious holidays
Class parties
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Watching R-rated movies for instructional purposes
MAP tests

It seems to me that we allow parents to opt their children out of a great many things. Why is this the exception where parents rights become irrelevant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

Except the kids being opted out are the ones that need to know it’s ok and normal to be gay or be part of a gay family.

You know what my kids conversations are on this very issue, they don't care that you're gay, they don't care who you kiss, they don't want to talk about it because they don't want to talk about sex stuff. It's really that simple for kids, you just don't get it. Why are we overcomplicating kids, if they don't want to be part of it I'm sure they have genuine feelings why that is, and their feelings matter just as much as the LGBT kids' feelings matter.

Here’s the thing, no one is talking to a. Kindergarten about sex. They may read “and tango makes three” which is a lovely book based on a true story that provides representation that families aren’t all the traditional nuclear family of a mom, dad, and two kids. Once you start banning curriculum of any sort everything becomes objectionable. Why is it ok to teach a book that has a mom and a dad but not one that has two moms?

Parents can already opt out of sex Ed. Leave it there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

Except the kids being opted out are the ones that need to know it’s ok and normal to be gay or be part of a gay family.

You know what my kids conversations are on this very issue, they don't care that you're gay, they don't care who you kiss, they don't want to talk about it because they don't want to talk about sex stuff. It's really that simple for kids, you just don't get it. Why are we overcomplicating kids, if they don't want to be part of it I'm sure they have genuine feelings why that is, and their feelings matter just as much as the LGBT kids' feelings matter.

Here’s the thing, no one is talking to a. Kindergarten about sex. They may read “and tango makes three” which is a lovely book based on a true story that provides representation that families aren’t all the traditional nuclear family of a mom, dad, and two kids. Once you start banning curriculum of any sort everything becomes objectionable. Why is it ok to teach a book that has a mom and a dad but not one that has two moms?

Parents can already opt out of sex Ed. Leave it there.

(Adding — I personally think inclusive and comprehensive ed should be mandatory too…. It’s the best way to make sure kids are equipped to prevent STIs and pregnancy. But that’s a whole different topic)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

Except the kids being opted out are the ones that need to know it’s ok and normal to be gay or be part of a gay family.

You know what my kids conversations are on this very issue, they don't care that you're gay, they don't care who you kiss, they don't want to talk about it because they don't want to talk about sex stuff. It's really that simple for kids, you just don't get it. Why are we overcomplicating kids, if they don't want to be part of it I'm sure they have genuine feelings why that is, and their feelings matter just as much as the LGBT kids' feelings matter.

And my kid doesn’t want to know anybody kisses or has sex so stop with 2 married couple, stop with Mary and Joseph 🤢 🤮 they have sec and have kids 😮

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

It quickly becomes chaos. Opt kids out of evolution in biology, books in English, topics in history.

Things parents can opt their kids out of:
Sex Ed
Field Trips
Required Vaccinations (and I’m not talking about COVID)
Dissections
Attendance on religious holidays
Class parties
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Watching R-rated movies for instructional purposes
MAP tests

It seems to me that we allow parents to opt their children out of a great many things. Why is this the exception where parents rights become irrelevant?

Because these opt-outs don’t require a replacement. Having a second curriculum is a different animal.

[Anonymous]

This is not about teaching anything. It’s about whether books used in the classroom can even include pictures or mention of same sex couples.

You cannot demand that everyone else pretend that certain people do not exist. That is dehumanizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

What about opting out of books with interracial couples?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

It quickly becomes chaos. Opt kids out of evolution in biology, books in English, topics in history.

Things parents can opt up their kids out of:
Sex Ed
Field Trips
Required Vaccinations (and I’m not talking about COVID)
Dissections
Attendance on religious holidays
Class parties
Saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Watching R-rated movies for instructional purposes
MAP tests

It seems to me that we allow parents to opt their children out of a great many things. Why is this the exception where parents rights become irrelevant?

Because these opt-outs don’t require a replacement. Having a second curriculum is a different animal.

That is not true. They do require replacements when curriculum related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

What about opting out of books with interracial couples?

If it’s against someone’s religious beliefs then of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing opt out seems like a no brainer.

What about opting out of books with interracial couples?

If it’s against someone’s religious beliefs then of course.

I’m Pastafarian. I believe that we have to teach that gravity is caused by a giant Flying Spaghetti Monster. Can I opt my kid out of all science classes that say otherwise?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is just the start of the next four years eroding the long-fought rights of LGBT people. What’s next? We’re only allowed to talk about the achievements of straight white men? Oh, wait.

How is this impacting their long-fought rights? What about my rights? This would be a win-win for everyone.

Seriously? You can't figure that out?

Nope, that’s why I’m asking. I have the right to keep my elementary age kid away from this garbage.

What garbage? The fact 2 women marry?

One of the books is a character that questions their gender and changes it from their gender at birth.

Here you go. One of the books in the curriculum, Born Ready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP have you read this lawsuit in its entirety?

I have they will lose .

It is the worst written lawsuit. The lawyers on the side of the religious zealots should lose their license because of how bad they wrote their side.

It is religious garbage. Worse than that they want add religious indoctrination into public schools.

Now that the Supreme Court has granted - they will have a new legal team of some of the best. With the new Admin, they will also have the support of the United States.

[Anonymous]

Of course parents should be able to opt out. Maryland is attempting to teach their version of a religion that isn’t shared by all. Keep to science, civics, math and reading all of which public schools are struggling to teach these days and leave morality lessons to the household.