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Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

Are these classes in person at the HS with in class teacher or online? Thx

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Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

Would be an interesting # to know because website doesn’t show and shows participation as COMBINED years numbers. Anyone attend last year graduation? Maybe shows in program? Do schools even have those anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

Would be an interesting # to know because website doesn’t show and shows participation as COMBINED years numbers. Anyone attend last year graduation? Maybe shows in program? Do schools even have those anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

Would be an interesting # to know because website doesn’t show and shows participation as COMBINED years numbers. Anyone attend last year graduation? Maybe shows in program? Do schools even have those anymore?

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https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CM5JDB4CA656/$file/Report%20on%20IB%20in%20FCPS.pdf

Wow, so they are trying to expand it? Why? It’s $9M startup cost plus $10M each year after!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

Would be an interesting # to know because website doesn’t show and shows participation as COMBINED years numbers. Anyone attend last year graduation? Maybe shows in program? Do schools even have those anymore?

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https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CM5JDB4CA656/$file/Report%20on%20IB%20in%20FCPS.pdf

Thank you for posting this. Crazy to me. Lewis had 4 (not a typo) full IB diploma students in 2021–guessing impacted by COVID, but not that many more in other schools. For SLHS showing about 50 students each year so < 10%.

Do I also read right that is about $200,000/per school for the program?

Did Board approve and rolling out the primary years program for IB in the 48 ES?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want the IB Diploma, you have to play by IB's rules. Their rule is you must take the HL exams senior year for them to count towards the diploma.

The work arounds are to:
1) take Analysis in 10th/11th and test the end of 12th (requires diligence and self studying, but not impossible)
2) take a gap year before starting year 2. Take AP Stats online or at another school if your school doesn't offer it, or calculus after analysis year 1.
3) Not worry about the IB credit/diploma and just take the courses you want without the testing nonsense. You'll get credit for multivar since it will be DE.

My kid is not interested in the IB Diploma so we have no intention of playing by IB rules if he attends that HS. The ideal is for him to transfer to an AP school but if that is not allowed then we will happily take the test as a Junior when the material is fresh.

Kids from AP schools are accepted at European schools without any real fuss, the schools seem to be able to interpret grades and AP scores reasonably easy. the IB Diploma has nothing to do with acceptance at colleges in the US, it isn't conferred until well after graduation. The IB program should be a magnate school offering for kids who are interested in completing it instead of forced on kids at select schools who have no other options.

If the kid is not interested in the IB diploma there’s no reason to take any IB math class if AP classes are available. The choice would be between IB Math Analysis I and II versus Precalculus and Calc BC. He can take the Calc BC exam instead of the HL exam and likely will get him more college credit.

Most of the IB HS in FCPS do not offer AP classes. Robinson does, although the numbers are small, and Lewis is adding AP classes, probably because they are trying to get kids to attend the new Academy program there. IB has not taken root in any school in FCPS, I have no idea why the County continues to pay for it.

Do those schools offer anything past IB Math Analysis II? Because if they don’t the OPs DC is stuck with the classes suggested by the IB coordinator.

SLHS has multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra on offer. I think a good number of the HS have similar offerings but I don't know for sure.

When do those students take the Math HL exam? Do they go for Diploma or generally don’t?

No clue. I believe that the percentage of kids earning the IB Diploma at SLHS is low but I don't have the exact number nor have I gone looking for them. The advanced math offerings are listed as in person on SLHS web site.

Would be an interesting # to know because website doesn’t show and shows participation as COMBINED years numbers. Anyone attend last year graduation? Maybe shows in program? Do schools even have those anymore?

Page 17-18
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CM5JDB4CA656/$file/Report%20on%20IB%20in%20FCPS.pdf

Thank you for posting this. Crazy to me. Lewis had 4 (not a typo) full IB diploma students in 2021–guessing impacted by COVID, but not that many more in other schools. For SLHS showing about 50 students each year so < 10%.

Do I also read right that is about $200,000/per school for the program?

Did Board approve and rolling out the primary years program for IB in the 48 ES?

Wherever IB was implemented it’s unpopular. It makes little sense to maintain both AP and IB. Middle years and elementary IB programs are terrible and make even less sense.

Therefore central office will expand IB.

[Anonymous]

In our school those who take IB Math HL
Senior year do AP Calculus BC junior year.

[Anonymous]

Either take AA HL classes in 10th and 11th and post calc classes in 12th + AA HL exam(s) at the non-accelerated schedule if you really want the diploma

Or take AA HL in 10th and 11th with the exams in 10th and 11th and post-calculus math in 12th if you're willing to forgo the diploma