What facts do you.have your kids memorize?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do multiplication and division facts!!

+1 This is the only one we really drill.

First time hearing of division facts. I thought if you know multiplication facts, you know division facts, no?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do multiplication and division facts!!

+1 This is the only one we really drill.

First time hearing of division facts. I thought if you know multiplication facts, you know division facts, no?

DP, but I've heard it depends on the kids. Some kids easily do the inversion and some don't. For those who don't, push the memorization. It may be that part way through memorizing, the concept clicks. If not at least they can quickly access the information while attempting long division.

I didn't have to do division facts with my oldest or youngest but got part way through with my middle until she suddenly just figured out how to quickly turn the multiplication fact into the division fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Certain states have formally brought back recitation so can look up Georgia, Arkansas dept of education as examples for what they have kids do at each grade level in ES (different poems/speeches at different ages, etc). Also lots of articles about benefit of recitation and how it maps the brains.

Neither Georgia or Arkansas has a strong public education system. I wouldn’t model anything on them.

DP. Sure they didn't have a strong education system. But it turns out a lot of these places cheerfully jumped on things like the science of reading bandwagon long before the blue states and their test scores are going up. Obviously education can only do so much to compensate for things like SES, though.

Something is working for Georgia. From Sept 2024 report, National Merit Semifinalists for GA= 624 from 126 schools, for VA = 394 for 110 schools (so not all from 1 school for either state- not all TJ or all prep school). Qualifying index 222 of VA, 218 for GA so if want to argue it’s only bc index lower can, but my I do buy into brain mapping and firing those neurons to exercise the brain when little being good- whether by learning instrument, physical exercise, memory games, recitation or all of the above. End of day for me though is making sure is fun and spending time with DS/DD. That’s really what they will remember. So not just shoving them in front of a screen to robot learn and parrot list of facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

It’s not either/or. I came name all the states in alphabetical order from rote memorization. I would never need Google for that. Their little brains can soak up a lot of information not just the concepts of each topic.

Yeah I learned that song too but that never helped me with understanding a single thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

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There/their/they’re
Your/you’re
To/too/two
Then/than
Its/it’s
Fewer than/less than
The Smiths/The Smiths’

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Multiplication

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

Memorizing the names of the 50 states doesn’t mean you know anything at all about them. They are just words without meaning.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

Memorizing the names of the 50 states doesn’t mean you know anything at all about them. They are just words without meaning.

And as people knew in the past (and many know today), learning the words is the first step to being able to add in meaning. I can't point to Kansas on a map if I don't know the word Kansas. I can learn "Kansas" and it's location on a map at the same time, or I can learn Kansas first. Is one better than the other? I don't know. Is knowing the location of Kansas better than not knowing it? I think so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

Memorizing the names of the 50 states doesn’t mean you know anything at all about them. They are just words without meaning.

And as people knew in the past (and many know today), learning the words is the first step to being able to add in meaning. I can't point to Kansas on a map if I don't know the word Kansas. I can learn "Kansas" and it's location on a map at the same time, or I can learn Kansas first. Is one better than the other? I don't know. Is knowing the location of Kansas better than not knowing it? I think so.

Being able to read a map is far more useful than being able to list the 50 states in alphabetical order like someone mentioned previously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

It’s not either/or. I came name all the states in alphabetical order from rote memorization. I would never need Google for that. Their little brains can soak up a lot of information not just the concepts of each topic.

Yeah I learned that song too but that never helped me with understanding a single thing.

I guess walking and chewing gum are hard for you too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

Memorizing the names of the 50 states doesn’t mean you know anything at all about them. They are just words without meaning.

And as people knew in the past (and many know today), learning the words is the first step to being able to add in meaning. I can't point to Kansas on a map if I don't know the word Kansas. I can learn "Kansas" and it's location on a map at the same time, or I can learn Kansas first. Is one better than the other? I don't know. Is knowing the location of Kansas better than not knowing it? I think so.

Being able to read a map is far more useful than being able to list the 50 states in alphabetical order like someone mentioned previously.

I'm going to blow your mind, I can actually read a map too. And I have all 50 state capitals memorized too.

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Depends on the kid. I did all the math facts and other things mentioned, like states and capitals and vocabulary words with flashcards for my oldest, which was time-consuming and painful for both of us. My youngest remembers things - like she memorizes the lyrics from a song after hearing it once or twice. I haven't done any flashcards with her. I just read to her, and she remembers and comprehends. She stops me with questions if she doesn't know what a word or concept means. Math is similar. A concept or fact only needs to be introduced once, and she'll get it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization is not the same as education. They can google any of that. I would rather have them remember from working with the concepts and relationships of each topic as opposed to rote memorization.

Turns out that knowing facts (memorization) is the basis of being able to comprehend something.

https://greatminds.org/english/blog/witwisdom/the-science-of-reading-what-is-prior-knowledge-and-why-is-it-important

Knowing facts is definitely NOT the same as memorization. Don’t you find it illuminating that the word “memorization” does not appear even once in that very long article that you used as a citation? Shouldn’t that tell you something?

"Memorization is the process of committing something to memory"

Memorizing it is included in the process of knowing it. If you don't want to memorize it by reciting it or whatever fine, but I think the rest of us are defining memorization to include any way of committing things to memory.

Memorizing the names of the 50 states doesn’t mean you know anything at all about them. They are just words without meaning.

And as people knew in the past (and many know today), learning the words is the first step to being able to add in meaning. I can't point to Kansas on a map if I don't know the word Kansas. I can learn "Kansas" and it's location on a map at the same time, or I can learn Kansas first. Is one better than the other? I don't know. Is knowing the location of Kansas better than not knowing it? I think so.

Being able to read a map is far more useful than being able to list the 50 states in alphabetical order like someone mentioned previously.

I'm going to blow your mind, I can actually read a map too. And I have all 50 state capitals memorized too.

Wow really hard