"OP - what exactly are you frightened of? That someone with a criminal past will know what your mortgage payments are? Have there been any cases of bad things happening to people who fill this in?
I'm a social scientist, so understand very well the usefulness of this type of information at an aggregate level. I've never fully understood what makes people scared. " Participants in research data collection usually are doing so voluntarily and researchers are bound to disclose the protections they put in place for the data. I would also be extremely hestitant to record all of this information in one place. |
PP extremely hesitant and OUTRAGED aren't even close to the same thing. Your reaction is normal. OP is being dramatic. |
hilarious!! |
Is the American Community Survey or ACS a survey or an Interrogation? Find out info on this topic at: http://checkpointusa.org/Census/Census.htm FREE legal services... Why is it to date, it appears no one has been fined for not responding to or completing the American Community Survey (ACS) since it is required by law to do so? Are you being harassed by the Census Bureau or do you feel your civil rights have been violated? If so, the below web site seems to provide FREE legal services to people whose constitutional and human rights have been threatened or violated. For more info on this topic, visit: http://censusthis.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/being-harrassed-by-the-senseless-bureau/ THE BELOW INFO IS WORTH REPEATING AGAIN - HELP MAKE THE ACS SURVEY BECOME VOLUNTARY, NOT MANDATORY! Democrats, Republicans & Libertarians alike should all be concerned about the ACS survey asking intrusive questions that violates our right to keep our personal information private. Support Bill H.R. 3131 to make the ACS survey VOLUNTARY - It has already been introduced in congress but hasn't passed yet. Write a Letter to Congress to support bill H.R. 3131. This will make participation in the American Community Survey voluntary. For information about the bill and to find out who your congressional leaders are, visit: http://censusthis.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/congressional-bill-h-r-3131-to-make-participation-in-the-american-community-survey-voluntary/ If you are going to write an email or a letter to a member of Congress there are some things you need to know: See sample letter to congress on bill H.R. 3131 at: http://censusthis.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/a-letter-to-congress-to-support-bill-h-r-3131-regarding-the-acs/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO LOOKUP YOUR SENATOR'S PHONE NUMBERS IN YOUR AREA, VISIT: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm LOOKUP YOUR CONGRESSIONAL LEADER'S PHONE NUMBERS IN YOUR AREA BY CALLING THE U.S. CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD at (202) 224-3121 LOCALLY OR CALL TOLL-FREE AT 1-800-962-3524 (NATIONALLY). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The RNC is in full support of having this bill passed into law. FRIDAY, AUGUST 13, 2010 RNC PASSES RESOLUTION ADDRESSING U.S. CENSUS CONCERNS The Republican National Committee passed the following resolution at their Summer 2010 meeting: RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2010/08/rnc-passes-resolution-addressing-us-census-concerns.html?cid=6a00d834515c5469e201348632c077970c RESOLVED, that upon the approval of this resolution the Republican National Committee shall deliver a copy of this resolution to each of the Republican members of Congress, all Republican candidates for Congress, and to each Republican state and territorial party office. As approved by the Republican National Committee, August 6, 2010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the Democrat's DNC would get on board as the RNC had recently done then bill H.R. 3131 may have a good chance of getting passed into law. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
This is awesome!! I'm going with this. None of it is false, I think the answers are truthful. Is there a way to answer like this, or are the answers multiple choice?? |
Have You Received the American Community Survey in the mail yet? If you haven't had your visit from the American Community Survey (ACS) yet then you will soon enough since this invasive questionnaire is being sent out to 250,000 households every month of each year (3 million/year). It doesn't matter if you fill out the survey or not. The census takers will visit you day after day, hour after hour to ensure they make your life a living hell. Don't take my word for it--watch the video shown below. You might think it's nothing but wait until you receive the ridiculous long form which demands that you answer numerous personal questions or risk paying hefty fines and penalties including imprisonment should you dare deny them the information requested on this survey. I am not talking about the simple 10 questions asked on the short form census you get every 10 years. The ACS asks questions you wouldn't want to tell a stranger. Among the questions asked on the 11-page American Community Survey (2010) are: The first section of the ACS asks for full name of each person living in the household, the total number of people, how the people are related to each other, the date of birth, sex and race of each person and whether any are of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin. The second section surveys housing, asking whether the household is a mobile home, a one-family detached home, a one-family home attached to one or more houses, an apartment or a boat, RV or van. Then the ACS asks what year the building was built, when "Person No. 1" in the housing section moved into the home; the size of land the home is on; what agricultural products were sold from the property in the last 12 months; whether the property was used as a business; how many separate rooms are in the house; whether the house has hot and cold running water; whether the house has a flush toilet, a shower or bathtub, a sink with a faucet, a stove or range, a refrigerator and a telephone; how many cars, vans and trucks are kept at the property; and what fuel is most used at the property – gas, electricity, fuel oil or kerosene, coal or coke, wood, solar energy, or "other." Further, the housing section in the ACS asks what was last month's bill for energy, what was the cost of water and sewage for the housing unit in the last year, whether anyone in the household received food stamps in the last year, the monthly rental or mortgage cost of the unit, an estimate of the resale value of the housing unit, the unit's annual property taxes and the annual cost of fire, hazard and flood insurance on the property. The ACS wants to know if Person No. 1 in the household is a citizen, if the person was born in the U.S. or when the person came to the U.S.; whether the person had attended college in the last three years and what is the highest level of education the person has completed; the person's ancestry or ethnic origin; whether the person speaks a language other than English at home, and if yes, what language; whether the person lived in this housing unit or an apartment a year ago; whether the person is covered by health insurance, and if yes, by what type of health insurance. Next, Person No. 1 must answer if he/she is deaf or has difficulty hearing; if the person is blind or has serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses; if the person has difficulty concentrating, remembering or making decisions because of a physical, mental or emotional condition; whether the person has serious difficulty walking or climbing stairs; whether the person has difficulty bathing or dressing; whether the person has difficulty doing errands alone such as visiting a doctor's office or shopping because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition; what is the person's marital status; whether the person has given birth to any children in the past 12 months; whether the person has any grandchildren under the age of 18 in the house or apartment; whether the person has ever served on active duty in the U.S. armed forces; whether the person has a VA service-connected disability rating, and if yes, what percentage is the VA disability rating. The ACS also asks whether Person No. 1 worked last week for pay; at what address, town, city and country did the person work last week; how did the person get to work and if by car, bus, railroad, taxi, motorcycle, bicycle or on foot; whether the person, if unemployed, has been actively looking for work in the past four weeks; whether the person, if unemployed, was available to start work if offered a job or recalled to work in the past week; and how many weeks the person worked in the past year and how many hours per week. Finally, Person No. 1 must disclose whether his or her most recent work was for a private for-profit company, a private not-for-profit, a local government, a state government or the federal government, or whether the person was self employed in their own incorporated or not-incorporated business, or whether the person worked without pay in a family business or on the family farm; the name of the employer; the type of business; whether the business was manufacturing, wholesale trade, retail trade; or other; the exact job description of the person and his or her most important duties; his or her income over the past 12 months and the amount of that income that came from wages, salary, commission, bonuses or tips; whether the person received any Social Security or Railroad Retirement benefits, or any other type of public assistance in the past 12 months; and the person's entire income over the past 12 months, both from employment or public welfare sources. What can we do to make the survey VOLUNTARY to being MANDATORY as it is today? Call your congressional leaders to support bill H.R. 3131. This bill once passed into law will make participation in the American Community Survey voluntary. Call the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at (202)224-3121 and ask for your senators' and/or representative's office. OR call them toll free at: 1-800-962-3524 (NATIONALLY). If your Member of Congress does not sit on any committee relevant to this bill, you generally have no opportunity to voice your opinion on the bill while the bill is receiving its most important consideration. The bill has been referred to the following committees: House Judiciary, Subcommittee on House Judiciary, Subcommittee on Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties House Oversight and Government Reform, Subcommittee on House Oversight and Government Reform, Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census, and National Archives For more info on this topic, go to: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3131&tab=committees Detailed Summary of Bill H.R. 3131: Prohibits making any criminal penalty apply for refusing or willfully neglecting to answer questions (except with respect to the respondent's name and contact information, the date of the response, and the number of people living or staying at the address) in connection with the American Community Survey conducted by the Secretary of Commerce. Woman Fed Up With Census Workers' Visits See Video at: http://www.ketv.com/video/24931473/detail.html See video "The Census is Getting Personal" at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDhkPym01k See "Census Video Part 2, Clarifications" found at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFvS5m4_OtA&feature=related |
Database marketers have so much more information about you, it's not even funny. Somewhere in Arkansas is a big database run by Axciom. It has just about everything, and it's all for sale. They know where you shop and what you buy.
Many people don't know that Lexis/Nexis also has a similar set of data. They can identify the people who lived in a group house with you fifteen years ago. They know the color of your car, all of your workplaces, your mortgage information, you name it. This is also for sale. The government's survey is child's play compared to what is readily for sale by legitimate data providers. |
Database marketers DO NOT bang your down door, day in, day out, hour after hour, even up into late evening hours to get you to answer their surveys. They DO NOT use coercion by threatening you with fines/penalties up to $5000 and imprisonment if you choose to opt out of their surveys either - However, the American Community Survey (ACS) being a corrupted branch of the Census Bureau as it is does. It doesn't matter if you respond to the ACS questionnaire or not since they will still send out census takers (more like ex-ACORN workers), using their high handed, thug-like tactics in collecting this information from you. This is a clear case of a tyrannical government gone amok. If you're fine giving up your basic civil liberties to this branch of the census, then by all means, do it! I do not perceive those personal questions being asked of me on the ACS questionnaire as being akin to child's play...I see the ACS, a branch of the census as stripping me of my right to keep my personal information private and for me that is a very BIG DEAL! Again, I repeat as stated earlier on this forum...I will participate in the 10-year census survey being it is a short form and limiting my answers to only enumeration questions. It does not demand I answer the types of intrusive personal questions as ACS does on its questionnaire. See a rough draft of ACS questions shown below.
Thankfully, there are still some Americans out there who value their freedom and recognize that it is time to stand up and fight back using whatever peaceful, nonviolent means are available to them by NOT responding to the ACS questionnaire. To date, there hasn't been a fine or imprisonment placed against anyone for not responding to this UN-AMERICAN survey. For those of you on this forum who continues to state the survey answers are needed to effectively distribute census data to those benefits and programs to where they are needed most then go ahead and respond to it BUT stop with the name calling tactics on those who oppose the survey and are willing to defend their right to privacy regarding census questions in which can, and cannot legally be asked of U.S. citizens. If the ACS wants to continue collecting information in helping the government ration out allotted funds in those areas of highest needs then it can start out by making its survey VOLUNTARY to being MANDATORY as it currently stands. It's that simple! For those of you who need to be reminded of what the U.S. Constitution really demands of us in regards to responding to a census survey, watch and listen to a video on this topic found at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDhkPym01k For those of you who still think the American Community Survey (a branch of the Census Bureau) is the decennial census short form being sent out every 10 years, I urge you to educate yourself by listening to the following video on this topic at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFvS5m4_OtA&feature=related I urge everyone who values their freedom to contact their congressional leaders immediately by calling the U.S. Capitol switchboard and demand they pass Bill H.R. 3131 into law. The bill has already been introduced in Congress and now is in the hands of several subcommittees. Once it becomes law, the ACS survey would then become VOLUNTARY to being MANDATORY as it is now with the exception of asking a few certain questions. For tracking Bill H.R. 3131 to: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3131 I found this article of interest in to where our current administration is using GPS markings at every front door in America in such a short time. So...Let's see if I have this right. They are not using the census as a political weapon then, right? For info on this topic, go to: Google: http://www.infowars.com/obama-and-acorn-gps-marking-every-front-door-in-america/ American Community Survey Questionnaire, Revealed Here is a rough copy of the American Community Survey questionnaire. You can decide for yourself whether it’s too personal or not. Start Here The person filling out the form must first identify themself by first and last name. They must provide a phone number, the date, and how many people are living or staying at the address. List of Residents For each resident, the following is requested. First and last name, gender, age and date of birth. Relationship to Person 1, defined as one of various family members, roommates, SOs, etc. Marital status Whether you’re are Spanish/Hispanic/Latino. What your race is. I find it curious that they break out the Spanish/Hispanic/Latino and ask about them specifically. Perhaps an attempt to find about how illegal immigrants are migrating? Housing Questions A description of the building structure. For example a mobile home, one-family detached house, a building with two apartments, etc. When the building was first built. When did Person 1 move in? How many acres? In the past 12 months what were the actual sales of all agricultural products from the property? Is there is business on the premises? How many rooms are in the house? How many bedrooms? Does it have complete plumbing facilities? Does it have complete kitchen facilities? Is there telephone service? How many automobiles are kept and used by members of the household? Which fuel is used most for heating? What was the electric bill last month? What was the gas bill for last month? In the past 12 months, what was the cost of water and sewer? In the past 12 months, what was the cost of oil, coal, kerosene, wood, etc? At any time during the past 12 months did anyone receive food stamps? If yes, what was the value? Is it part of a condo? If so, what is the monthly condo fee? Is the house owned by a resident with a mortgage or a loan? free and clear? rented for cash? occupied without payment of cash? What is the monthly rent? does it include meals? What is the value of the property? i.e. how much would if sell for if it were for sale? What are the annual real estate taxes on the property? What is the annual payment for fire, hazard, and flood insurance on the property? Do you or any member have a mortage, deed of trust, contract to purchase, or similar debt on the property? How much is the regular monthly mortgage payment on this property? Does the payment include payments for real estate taxes? Does the payment include payments for insurance (as listed above)? Does a member have a second mortgage on the place? how much is the monthly payment? If a mobile home, what are the annual costs for taxes, site rent, registration fees, etc. Do you stay here year round? How many months to the members stay here? What is the primary reason the members are staying here? Personal Questions The following questions are asked of each person whose information was filled out in the 2nd section. There’s 3-4 pages for each person to fill out there own portion. Most questions start with “Is this person…” born in either in the U.S. (with a fill-in for state) or outside the U.S. (will fill-in for country) a citizen of the U.S. (with choices for natural born, born abroad, naturalized, not, etc). if not born in the U.S., what year did you come? at any time in the last 3 months did you attend regular school or college? (choices for No, Yes-public and Yes-private) What grade or level was this person attending? (range of educational levels) What is the highest degree or level of school completed? (ditto) What is the person’s ancestry or ethnic origin? Does this person speak a language other than English at home? if yes, what is it? How well does the person speak English? Did the person live here 1 year ago? Where did the person live 1 year ago? (fill in city, town, or PO) have any of the following long-lasting conditions: blindness, deafness, or a severe vision or hearing impairment? a condition that substantially limits one or more basic physical activities such as walking, climbing stairs, reaching, lifitng, or carrying? Because of physical, mental, or emotional condition lasting 6 months or more, does this personal have any difficulty in doing any of the following activities: learning, remembering, or concentrating? dressing, bathing, or getting around inside the home? 15 years or older only; because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition lasting 6 months or more, does this person have any difficulties going outside the home alone to shop or visit a doctor’s office? working at a job or business? females 15-50 only; given birth in the past 12 months? have any grandchildren under the age of 18 living in this house? is this grandparent currently responsible for most of the basic needs of them? how long have the grandparent been responsible for them? ever served on active duty? (variety of options, active now, active in the past year, on training, etc) when did you serve? (list of all major conflicts, check as many as you need) how many years of active duty service (less than 2, or 2 or more)? did you do ANY work for pay or profit last week? at what location did you work? fill in complete address of location how did you get to work (checkboxes for all sorts of transportation types) if an automobile, how many people rode in the car? what time did you usually leave for work last week? how many minutes did it take to get to work? if you didn’t work, were you laid off? if you didn’t work, were you temporarily off? on vacation? illness? labor dispute? if you didn’t work, have you been informed that you’ll be recalled within the next 6 months? if you didn’t work, have you been looking for work in the last 4 weeks? if you didn’t work, LAST WEEK could you have started a job if offered one? when did you last work? within 12 months? 1-5 years ago? over 5 years ago? during the past 12 months, how many week did you work? during the past 12 months, in the weeks worked, how many hours did you work each week? were you an employee of (private for profit, non profit, government, state, self-employed, etc) for whom did you work, fill in name what kind of business is this, fill in what kind of work are you doing, fill in what were this person’s most important activities or duties, fill-in income section; wages, salary, commissions, bonuses, or tips from all jobs for last 12 months (fill in) self-employment incoming from own businesse, including proprieteorships and partnerships last 12 months (fill in) interest, dividends, net rental incomes, royalty income, or income from estates and trusts, last 12 months (fill in) Social security or Railroad, last 12 months (fill in) SSI (ditto) public assistance or welfare payments or from the state or local office (ditto) retirement, survivor, or disability (ditto) any other sources of income; VA, unemployment, child support, etc (ditto) what was the total income during the past 12 months? (ditto) |
You are a wacko. Stop obsessing about this. If you can't do your civic duty, then just shirk and stop blabbering on about it. 'kay? |
You are a wacko. Stop obsessing about this. If you can't do your civic duty, then just shirk and stop blabbering on about it. 'kay?
FYI... Since when is it, I'm singled out as a "WHACO" for standing up for my right to protect my personal information by keeping it private by inciting my 4th Amendment right, and choosing to remain silent by refusing to fill out the invasive ACS questionnaire by inciting my 5th Amendment right, and for your information these rights are granted to me by the U.S. Constitution? You say do your civic duty and fill out the form or what? Isn't it clear you will be fined up to $5,000 or be imprisoned should you dare fail to respond to the survey? Is this what you call your civic duty? I call it a tyrannical government that seriously needs to be reined in when its over reached its authority as the ACS has done. Whose side are you on anyway? Stop walking in lockstep with the democrats and mainstream media on this subject and find your own voice. Stop the name calling tactics and make yourself useful! It shows emotional immaturity on your part. Like really, to whose allegiance do you salute your flag to anyway? It sure isn't to the American flag, is it? |
It is not your right. It is your constitutional obligation to fill it out. You have practically no direct responsibilities in this country of ours. This is practically the only one enumerated that specifically covers you. You wag on about your fourth and fifth amendment rights. It's all nonsense. The fourth and fifth amendment did not nullify your obligation to do your duty under Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution. This has been tested time and time again in the courts, and the courts have not agreed with you. You use words like Tyranny. Yet our founding fathers, who knew what tyranny really was, wrote this Constitution AND conducted a census every ten years afterward. You call this a Democratic issue. Yet Republican administrations have been conducting the same census, with largely the same questions. So even your own party doesn't agree with you. Bush didn't stop the ACS. Reagan didn't stop it. For didn't stop it. Nixon didn't stop it. What the hell right have you to call this a Democratic issue. I don't need mainstream media to answer these questions, nor do you. Read the case law. It is clear. Stop being a wuss and do your duty. |
It is not your right. It is your constitutional obligation to fill it out. You have practically no direct responsibilities in this country of ours. This is practically the only one enumerated that specifically covers you. You wag on about your fourth and fifth amendment rights. It's all nonsense. The fourth and fifth amendment did not nullify your obligation to do your duty under Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution. This has been tested time and time again in the courts, and the courts have not agreed with you.
You use words like Tyranny. Yet our founding fathers, who knew what tyranny really was, wrote this Constitution AND conducted a census every ten years afterward. You call this a Democratic issue. Yet Republican administrations have been conducting the same census, with largely the same questions. So even your own party doesn't agree with you. Bush didn't stop the ACS. Reagan didn't stop it. For didn't stop it. Nixon didn't stop it. What the hell right have you to call this a Democratic issue. I don't need mainstream media to answer these questions, nor do you. Read the case law. It is clear. Stop being a wuss and do your duty. PP here - As stated previously in this forum, I do not have any problem in filling in and returning the decennial census that appears once every 10 years at my door. I have and will continue to answer only those questions pertaining to enumeration purposes on that particular survey since constitutional law requires that I do so - All other questions will be left unanswered on this survey. About your comment on my inciting use of fourth and fifth amendment rights regarding my failing to respond to the ACS questionnaire being all nonsense. Let’s see here...No where in the constitution does it authorize government to penalize me for not giving them my private information. In fact, the constitution make a special point to prohibit the government from taking my private information stated in the fourth and fifth amendments. Under U.S. Code Title 13, it calls for penalties for failing to respond to the 10-year census form. It states Congress may conduct enumeration in such manner as they shall by LAW direct. I am no attorney but am pretty sure it doesn’t mean Congress can do anything they want even if the constitution doesn’t authorize it. That would be absurd if they did! If that were true then there would be no need for a constitution, right? In constitutional language, the word LAW does not mean STATUTE - It refers to only constitutional law. Title 13 is a Statute. The constitution does not say Congress may enumerate in such a manner as they shall by STATUTE direct - It says by LAW direct. That wording means any statute such as Title 13 and Title 18 must be within and limited to the provisions of the constitution. They have been pushing the ACS questionnaire on U.S. citizens for how many years now??? Why do you think the census does not prosecute those who refuse to respond to the ACS questionnaire? If they did go forth in prosecuting any one over this insane ACS survey then that would open the door for Title 13 and Title 18 to be challenged in a court of law. I know of a few good constitution law attorneys who would welcome the challenge should the occasion arise! Regarding your comment on what the hell right do I have calling this a democratic issue...Yes, it’s true to where both the democratic and republican congressional leaders gave the Commerce/Census Department the authority to go with asking American Citizens all those intrusive personal questions on the ACS questionnaire and using the data for their own greedy purposes BUT its been recently documented that the RNC is in full support of having Bill H.R. 3131 be passed into law making ACS voluntary. My guess is, the republican party will back this bill. FRIDAY, AUGUST 13, 2010 RNC PASSES RESOLUTION ADDRESSING U.S. CENSUS CONCERNS The Republican National Committee passed the following resolution at their Summer 2010 meeting: RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2...d834515c5469e201348632c077970c RESOLVED, that upon the approval of this resolution the Republican National Committee shall deliver a copy of this resolution to each of the Republican members of Congress, all Republican candidates for Congress, and to each Republican state and territorial party office. As approved by the Republican National Committee, August 6, 2010 As I said before on this forum, if the DNC would get on board as the RNC had recently done then Bill H.R. 3131 may have a good chance of getting passed into law. Oh, and about your comment on me being a republican...Nope, I’m a democrat here and am no supporter of G.W. either. You don’t have to be a republican or tea party supporter to see how the ACS has overstepped its bounds in stripping U.S. Citizens of their right to keep their personal information private. This is an AMERICAN issue! Am I pleased with the democratic party as it stands today? No, I am not! AND about your comment regarding me being a wuss and just do my duty - YOU WISH! |
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Who was the last Democrat you actually voted for on the federal or even state levels? |
Your comment which I underlined is not correct. No court has interpreted the fourth amendment so broadly, and due process has already been tried in the 5th regarding the census. Unless maybe you meant to invoke the 5th amendment self-incrimination provision, in which case stop posting and don't be so conspicuous. The courts have already found against the bolded section. They have ruled that it is within the meaning of Art 1 Section 2. As evidence, the original census, I think conducted under Thomas Jefferson, included questions not explicitly listed in the Constitution. So arguing that the meaning is as narrowly defined as written is not going to fly because it didn't fly even with the founders. As for the italicized text, a law is a statute. I'm not sure what your point is here. |
I should also clarify that under the constitution, LAW does not merely refer to the Constitution itself. Otherwise when it said Congress shall make no LAW abridging freedom of speech, then it could simply enact statutes to go beyond the Constitutional limitation. |