Teen boys skewing more conservative?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


Why does he feel school is against him? Colleges are bending over backwards to get boys to enroll these days. He has a leg up already.
Anonymous
I think what we have been seeing is a shift away from white males always getting their way and white makes are scared.
Anonymous
For those of you who think young men are feeling alienated and demonized by focus on marginalized groups - how do we, as parents, make them feel valued as part of a larger whole rather than reinforcing splits between different groups? My work relates to American history, so I talk to my kids about the diversity of the abolitionist and civil rights movements and how white people like us have always had choices, we aren't put on "sides" based on the colors of our skin. But I don't really know what resonates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?


It’s his perception. It’s the perception of a teen boy and how many feel. They have gone through years of school and sat through of the lessons now focused on all of the SEL stuff. We cant tell them how to feel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My boys are 15 and 17 and they, and all of their friends, seem to be right of their parents. They claim that “everyone” was excited about the Trump victory.

They’ve been told for years that they need to apologize for their privilege and their unconscious bias. Unlike the boys of my generation that made off-colored jokes, they live in fear of unintentionally offending someone and being cancelled while they watch the black kids call each other the n-word and make white boy jokes. They noted in middle school that their girl friends weren’t allowed to wear nail polish or makeup to school but no one said anything when the trans kinds did so. The LGBTQ+ and diverse kids are celebrated while they’re made to feel like the boogeyman. Every book they read in English class is about the struggles of some maligned group- they never read books in school that they can relate to.

Yes, we need to address the wrongs of our country’s past, but we need to do so in a way that doesn’t repeat those wrongs by making young white, Hispanic and Asian straight males feel like they’re now being treated unfairly. I fear that the Democratic party has lost a generation of male voters by prioritizing DEI and trans rights over crime, national safety and jobs.

-Mom who voted for Obama twice, Hillary, Biden and now, reluctantly, Trump. I know several friends who voted for a Republican for the first time this election.


You are spot on.
Anonymous
This is very much not my experience with my own young teen boy. He is deeply frustrated with lots of things, but hasn't leaned conservative in response. Perhaps it is his friend group or school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogens podcast is their bible


Yes, this.
Anonymous
I'm not sure why this phenomenon is a surprise to anyone. Dems have no one to blame but themselves. Eventually, being told over and over that they are the reason for all the problems of the world, that they don't deserve their privilege, that they 'owe' other people some kind of due for just being white, or wealthy, or straight, or whatever, is going to backfire. These kids look around and go hey wait, this isn't fair. I have no doubt this will backfire on this forum as I've very rarely seen introspection on the part of democrats. Which is fine, stay obstinate and unmoving, but don't be surprised when nothing changes or people move even more to the right.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?


It’s his perception. It’s the perception of a teen boy and how many feel. They have gone through years of school and sat through of the lessons now focused on all of the SEL stuff. We cant tell them how to feel.


I get that. I do. But the reason schools have swung so far in that direction is because so many non-white, non-boys have gone through decades of sitting through lessons focused on white men. They have to at least be aware of that. If they’d been born at a different time, they’d be sitting pretty, blissfully unaware of their privilege. But they weren’t, and this is their period in history to live through.

I am a parent of a white teen boy, fwiw, and I don’t want to erase the accomplishments of all those white men that came before, but the hope is that things can settle in a stable medium where everyone feels valued and respected.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?


It’s his perception. It’s the perception of a teen boy and how many feel. They have gone through years of school and sat through of the lessons now focused on all of the SEL stuff. We cant tell them how to feel.


+1

When the Covid lockdown started my son was in 4th grade and I remember sitting in on a lesson with him in which the teacher told the class that for the discussion the white boys just had to listen and were not allowed to contribute. It was about diversity or something, I don’t remember exactly. But he (naturally) was very upset by this, and I was absolutely shocked. He was 10 years old, being told his opinion didn’t matter because of his sex and the color of his skin.

I wouldn’t say he is conservative, but he is certainly not liberal. If anything, I would describe him (and myself) as moderate. But it’s undeniable that the rhetoric coming from progressives has a lot of “white man bad” - I am even more surprised that in the past several years they have gone all in by including “white women bad”, especially with all the “karen” BS.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?


It’s his perception. It’s the perception of a teen boy and how many feel. They have gone through years of school and sat through of the lessons now focused on all of the SEL stuff. We cant tell them how to feel.


I get that. I do. But the reason schools have swung so far in that direction is because so many non-white, non-boys have gone through decades of sitting through lessons focused on white men. They have to at least be aware of that. If they’d been born at a different time, they’d be sitting pretty, blissfully unaware of their privilege. But they weren’t, and this is their period in history to live through.

I am a parent of a white teen boy, fwiw, and I don’t want to erase the accomplishments of all those white men that came before, but the hope is that things can settle in a stable medium where everyone feels valued and respected.


But this isn’t true. No child has listened to anything for decades. Because they’re not decades old. You are advocating for, essentially, mistreatment of innocent white children NOW because of the mistreatment of non-white children before they were even born. It’s insane.
Anonymous
No one likes to see their power and influence abate. These teen boys are parroting what they hear from podcasts/social media where men in their 20s and 30s are realizing their days to do what they please and have things handed to them because they are men may be over. They are fighting that, tooth and nail. Thus, the "Your body, my choice" mantra that is being repeated, ad nauseam, in these circles. We are white, privileged, and have a 15 YO DS, and we stress that he is no more or less important than any other human being on this earth. He needs to use his privilege to speak up when others may be reluctant too. He's pretty disgusted by all the anti-woman rhetoric.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.


What rights of his are missing or at risk?


It’s his perception. It’s the perception of a teen boy and how many feel. They have gone through years of school and sat through of the lessons now focused on all of the SEL stuff. We cant tell them how to feel.


I get that. I do. But the reason schools have swung so far in that direction is because so many non-white, non-boys have gone through decades of sitting through lessons focused on white men. They have to at least be aware of that. If they’d been born at a different time, they’d be sitting pretty, blissfully unaware of their privilege. But they weren’t, and this is their period in history to live through.

I am a parent of a white teen boy, fwiw, and I don’t want to erase the accomplishments of all those white men that came before, but the hope is that things can settle in a stable medium where everyone feels valued and respected.


But this isn’t true. No child has listened to anything for decades. Because they’re not decades old. You are advocating for, essentially, mistreatment of innocent white children NOW because of the mistreatment of non-white children before they were even born. It’s insane.


Having to read a book written by a woman or a black person is mistreatment?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My boys are 15 and 17 and they, and all of their friends, seem to be right of their parents. They claim that “everyone” was excited about the Trump victory.

They’ve been told for years that they need to apologize for their privilege and their unconscious bias. Unlike the boys of my generation that made off-colored jokes, they live in fear of unintentionally offending someone and being cancelled while they watch the black kids call each other the n-word and make white boy jokes. They noted in middle school that their girl friends weren’t allowed to wear nail polish or makeup to school but no one said anything when the trans kinds did so. The LGBTQ+ and diverse kids are celebrated while they’re made to feel like the boogeyman. Every book they read in English class is about the struggles of some maligned group- they never read books in school that they can relate to.

Yes, we need to address the wrongs of our country’s past, but we need to do so in a way that doesn’t repeat those wrongs by making young white, Hispanic and Asian straight males feel like they’re now being treated unfairly. I fear that the Democratic party has lost a generation of male voters by prioritizing DEI and trans rights over crime, national safety and jobs.

-Mom who voted for Obama twice, Hillary, Biden and now, reluctantly, Trump. I know several friends who voted for a Republican for the first time this election.


You are spot on.


+1,000,000%

And as a straight, white woman I feel the same way. I’m labeled a “Karen” and made to feel like a terrible person just for existing
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