Teen boys skewing more conservative?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Clueless.

[Anonymous]

My 12th grade son and all his friends lean conservative--this is across 3 or 4 private schools and DCPS.

I think they grew up being with DEI, LGBTQ, etc being taught to them from every side and are like "thanks but I'll make my own decision."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Really?

So, why are teen girls skewing more progressive? I would say because of the toxic feminism that they have been lied to about for their entire lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a teen boy have an understanding one way or the other about pregnancy, immigration, and foreign wars?

Ant understanding would be fake.

Focus on teaching media literacy, logic and math, propaganda techniques, and moral values, away from current events, and then give them room to think about how tht applies.

Why wouldn't they have understanding and opinions? Are your teens unintelligent? Can they read a variety of newspapers? Who isn't having these conversation with their kids, especially during this election cycle?

Of course, teens have knowledge and opinions. Ours read and discuss articles with us. They studied both US and world history, followed by middle eastern studies and an intro to constitutional law. Both took an elective course in bioethics, so they talk about reproductive rights a lot. You don't teach media literacy in a vacuum or propaganda out of context.

We do fool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My boys are 15 and 17 and they, and all of their friends, seem to be right of their parents. They claim that “everyone” was excited about the Trump victory.

They’ve been told for years that they need to apologize for their privilege and their unconscious bias. Unlike the boys of my generation that made off-colored jokes, they live in fear of unintentionally offending someone and being cancelled while they watch the black kids call each other the n-word and make white boy jokes. They noted in middle school that their girl friends weren’t allowed to wear nail polish or makeup to school but no one said anything when the trans kinds did so. The LGBTQ+ and diverse kids are celebrated while they’re made to feel like the boogeyman. Every book they read in English class is about the struggles of some maligned group- they never read books in school that they can relate to.

Yes, we need to address the wrongs of our country’s past, but we need to do so in a way that doesn’t repeat those wrongs by making young white, Hispanic and Asian straight males feel like they’re now being treated unfairly. I fear that the Democratic party has lost a generation of male voters by prioritizing DEI and trans rights over crime, national safety and jobs.

-Mom who voted for Obama twice, Hillary, Biden and now, reluctantly, Trump. I know several friends who voted for a Republican for the first time this election.

Riiight.

[Anonymous]

Joe Rogens podcast is their bible

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Really?

So, why are teen girls skewing more progressive? I would say because of the toxic feminism that they have been lied to about for their entire lives.

I don't know. It seems like Gen Z is actually more conservative than Millennial women, but that's just my observation with my teen and her peers. They seem more pragmatic anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys are 15 and 17 and they, and all of their friends, seem to be right of their parents. They claim that “everyone” was excited about the Trump victory.

They’ve been told for years that they need to apologize for their privilege and their unconscious bias. Unlike the boys of my generation that made off-colored jokes, they live in fear of unintentionally offending someone and being cancelled while they watch the black kids call each other the n-word and make white boy jokes. They noted in middle school that their girl friends weren’t allowed to wear nail polish or makeup to school but no one said anything when the trans kinds did so. The LGBTQ+ and diverse kids are celebrated while they’re made to feel like the boogeyman. Every book they read in English class is about the struggles of some maligned group- they never read books in school that they can relate to.

Yes, we need to address the wrongs of our country’s past, but we need to do so in a way that doesn’t repeat those wrongs by making young white, Hispanic and Asian straight males feel like they’re now being treated unfairly. I fear that the Democratic party has lost a generation of male voters by prioritizing DEI and trans rights over crime, national safety and jobs.

-Mom who voted for Obama twice, Hillary, Biden and now, reluctantly, Trump. I know several friends who voted for a Republican for the first time this election.

Riiight.

Dp here. Just stop. Stop rejecting people from your own side when they are doing you the favor of telling you what’s gone wrong. Open your ears. I’m the same as pp, except I voted for McCain instead of Obama the first time. She’s 100% right, and it’s people like you who handed this year’s election to Trump. Stop talking and start listening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Really?

So, why are teen girls skewing more progressive? I would say because of the toxic feminism that they have been lied to about for their entire lives.

I don't know. It seems like Gen Z is actually more conservative than Millennial women, but that's just my observation with my teen and her peers. They seem more pragmatic anyway.

That's correct, at least according to the surveys. And let's not forget that it was Gen X that really delivered the White House to Trump. Men AND women in that demographic supported him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Th election thread got me thinking. I have two teen boys and we are a very open family in that we have talked about social issues and politics for years. My husband and I would probably be labeled as progressives. Our kids say they would have voted for Harris but I’ve noticed that their attitudes are so much more conservative and old-school than I would have expected. Very judge-y and apathetic about reproductive rights, immigration, the conflict in the middle-east and really love these social media influencer bro types who tout money and getting ahead over being empathetic. I thought it was just my kids and maybe this is their rebellion but I’ve talked to other parents and they are seeing the same thing. Anybody else? What do you do when they express pretty narrow or judgmental views? We’ve gotten into arguments and I feel like I’m at Thanksgiving dinner with my crazy uncle!

It’s because the Democrats as a party have made it very clear that the Democrats do not want young men in their party. Actually they’ve made it clear they don’t even like young men.

I have voting age sons who voted Harris but very reluctantly. And of their friends, it was about 50/50. We live in a blue state, I would guess their friends’ parents mostly voted blue. This is a very diverse friend group and if anything the white boys voted Harris more consistently than the brown or black boys.

They all talk about it as friends; there is none of the ridiculous hysteria you see about cutting off friendships because of a vote one way or the other. And in these conversations (as reported), they all agreed that they had hundreds of Trump ads targeted at them, but didn’t see a single Harris ad. Several of them heard Trump speak because he went on podcasts they listen to. None of them heard Harris speak unless they sought out a speech. They all — even the Harris voters — admire Trump’s courage after the assassination attempt. None of them, not even the Harris voters, are screaming and miserable and having tantrums because he won. They are either mildly disappointed or calmly happy.

These are all good kids, with jobs and in school, most of whom don’t drink or drink very little (you have no idea how gauche alcohol is perceived by this generation).

By the way, I think that is another factor that isn’t talked about. Trump famously doesn’t drink and Harris sounded drunk at times. Many boys in this generation hate alcohol and alcoholics.

[Anonymous]

White pride vote trump for life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Really?

So, why are teen girls skewing more progressive? I would say because of the toxic feminism that they have been lied to about for their entire lives.

I have a teen girl and my impression is that girls are bifurcating into a very progressive, feminist group and another that is pretty trad. There are some very progressive boys as well but it is a small percentage. It is more equally split among girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity and sexism.

Really?

So, why are teen girls skewing more progressive? I would say because of the toxic feminism that they have been lied to about for their entire lives.

I have a teen girl and my impression is that girls are bifurcating into a very progressive, feminist group and another that is pretty trad. There are some very progressive boys as well but it is a small percentage. It is more equally split among girls.

NP. It’s almost as if there’s this pervasive force that’s actively trying to divvy people up into neat little categories and pit them against each other. Get their attention, convince them they’re “expressing themselves,” make them angry, sell them stuff, make money.

[Anonymous]

Your kids do not have to be carbon copies of you and be proud you raised them to have their own views. Do you have the exact same views as your parents? DCUM is filled with adults complaining about the political views of their parents. Neither of your kids are old enough to vote anyway.

I have two teens. One is much more conservative than me and one is much more liberal. I am proud that I have raised strong minded children that can form their own opinions. We have a strict rule that everyone must respect each other and I like when they can talk about their difference of opinion. It’s okay. I often do not agree with either of them. That’s okay too.

[Anonymous]

11:12 and I will say listening to my son, he feels the world and especially school is against him. He really believes that now. Some of your sons may feel the same. He doesn’t want to take away any rights from women. He just wants to make sure he has rights too.