New Principal at Quince Orchard HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who is dealing with a family member's sudden diagnosis this week, I find it audacious that we would speculate about why someone would leave their job. The woman is giving almost 2 months notice FFS. There is no other profession in the world where people are expected to give more than 2 weeks. Teachers and principals are people too who can leave at any time, because they have a personal reason, because someone in their family has a personal reason, because they won the lottery, because they're sick of peoples' S*#@, or because they found a new job. It is none of anyone's business and assuming they kept good records and communicate they are under ZERO obligation to stay for months on end just to please parents. Schools can adjust. That's normal.

Back off the Whys and focus on the What's Next?

I don't think it's audacious to speculate why a principal is leaving their job, ESPECIALLY if they're leaving mid-year, which is USUALLY done for unexpected reasons (i.e. family/personal crisis) or when you're fed up with the system.

Principals are like mayors of their schools. You can't be surprised when people wonder why a principal is leaving midyear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Responsible leaders who care about their organization would be concerned about the transition and not leave it in the lurch.

Responsible leaders give notice and help with the transition. If the replacement is not determined timely that’s in the Heads of the organization and HR.

There are Assistant principals who can operate the school in the interim.

To PP of this reply - Either you are new to this board or you are trolling, because you clearly have no understanding of the principal hiring process in MCPS, despite that being a major topic last spring.

This responsible leader has given plenty of notice about their retirement, which allows MCPS to identify the interim principal (could be an AP, could be a principal intern) and place them at the school for training before the principal leaves. Then there will be a principal hiring process which gets feedback from the community, posts the position, interviews and then eventually hires. That will happen during the spring. The new principal will start July 1, 2025.

Or it could be sooner than that. Last year, several acting HS principals were appointed to the permanent jobs in March and April.

Yes, they were appointed in spring. But they didn’t start until July 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Responsible leaders who care about their organization would be concerned about the transition and not leave it in the lurch.

Responsible leaders give notice and help with the transition. If the replacement is not determined timely that’s in the Heads of the organization and HR.

There are Assistant principals who can operate the school in the interim.

To PP of this reply - Either you are new to this board or you are trolling, because you clearly have no understanding of the principal hiring process in MCPS, despite that being a major topic last spring.

This responsible leader has given plenty of notice about their retirement, which allows MCPS to identify the interim principal (could be an AP, could be a principal intern) and place them at the school for training before the principal leaves. Then there will be a principal hiring process which gets feedback from the community, posts the position, interviews and then eventually hires. That will happen during the spring. The new principal will start July 1, 2025.

Or it could be sooner than that. Last year, several acting HS principals were appointed to the permanent jobs in March and April.

Yes, they were appointed in spring. But they didn’t start until July 1.

Not true. If someone is already the acting principal of a school and then they are appointed as that school's permanent principal, the permanent position is effective the day after the board vote. This is what happened last year at Clarksburg, for example. Owusu retired mid-year, and O'Neill started as the acting principal in January. On April 11th, the board voted to appoint O'Neill as the permanent principal, and this took effect on April 12th. See page 2:

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/D4CJGH4D1D8C/$file/OHRD%20Rec%20Appts%20240411%20Public.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is dealing with a family member's sudden diagnosis this week, I find it audacious that we would speculate about why someone would leave their job. The woman is giving almost 2 months notice FFS. There is no other profession in the world where people are expected to give more than 2 weeks. Teachers and principals are people too who can leave at any time, because they have a personal reason, because someone in their family has a personal reason, because they won the lottery, because they're sick of peoples' S*#@, or because they found a new job. It is none of anyone's business and assuming they kept good records and communicate they are under ZERO obligation to stay for months on end just to please parents. Schools can adjust. That's normal.

Back off the Whys and focus on the What's Next?

I don't think it's audacious to speculate why a principal is leaving their job, ESPECIALLY if they're leaving mid-year, which is USUALLY done for unexpected reasons (i.e. family/personal crisis) or when you're fed up with the system.

Principals are like mayors of their schools. You can't be surprised when people wonder why a principal is leaving midyear.

No, yeah, it's totally normal to speculate. Think about it. Talk about it at dinner. Ask your friend with a kid in your son's class who you've known since 3rd grade. But it's straight up callous and unhinged to post about it to a message baord expecting someone to reveal the drama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is dealing with a family member's sudden diagnosis this week, I find it audacious that we would speculate about why someone would leave their job. The woman is giving almost 2 months notice FFS. There is no other profession in the world where people are expected to give more than 2 weeks. Teachers and principals are people too who can leave at any time, because they have a personal reason, because someone in their family has a personal reason, because they won the lottery, because they're sick of peoples' S*#@, or because they found a new job. It is none of anyone's business and assuming they kept good records and communicate they are under ZERO obligation to stay for months on end just to please parents. Schools can adjust. That's normal.

Back off the Whys and focus on the What's Next?

I don't think it's audacious to speculate why a principal is leaving their job, ESPECIALLY if they're leaving mid-year, which is USUALLY done for unexpected reasons (i.e. family/personal crisis) or when you're fed up with the system.

Principals are like mayors of their schools. You can't be surprised when people wonder why a principal is leaving midyear.

No, yeah, it's totally normal to speculate. Think about it. Talk about it at dinner. Ask your friend with a kid in your son's class who you've known since 3rd grade. But it's straight up callous and unhinged to post about it to a message baord expecting someone to reveal the drama.

Exactly, but somehow because it is often done here, people think it is normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who is dealing with a family member's sudden diagnosis this week, I find it audacious that we would speculate about why someone would leave their job. The woman is giving almost 2 months notice FFS. There is no other profession in the world where people are expected to give more than 2 weeks. Teachers and principals are people too who can leave at any time, because they have a personal reason, because someone in their family has a personal reason, because they won the lottery, because they're sick of peoples' S*#@, or because they found a new job. It is none of anyone's business and assuming they kept good records and communicate they are under ZERO obligation to stay for months on end just to please parents. Schools can adjust. That's normal.

Back off the Whys and focus on the What's Next?

I don't think it's audacious to speculate why a principal is leaving their job, ESPECIALLY if they're leaving mid-year, which is USUALLY done for unexpected reasons (i.e. family/personal crisis) or when you're fed up with the system.

Principals are like mayors of their schools. You can't be surprised when people wonder why a principal is leaving midyear.

No, yeah, it's totally normal to speculate. Think about it. Talk about it at dinner. Ask your friend with a kid in your son's class who you've known since 3rd grade. But it's straight up callous and unhinged to post about it to a message baord expecting someone to reveal the drama.

Imagine bringing some of this energy to the crap kids put up with 24/7 in school and on social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who is dealing with a family member's sudden diagnosis this week, I find it audacious that we would speculate about why someone would leave their job. The woman is giving almost 2 months notice FFS. There is no other profession in the world where people are expected to give more than 2 weeks. Teachers and principals are people too who can leave at any time, because they have a personal reason, because someone in their family has a personal reason, because they won the lottery, because they're sick of peoples' S*#@, or because they found a new job. It is none of anyone's business and assuming they kept good records and communicate they are under ZERO obligation to stay for months on end just to please parents. Schools can adjust. That's normal.

Back off the Whys and focus on the What's Next?

I don't think it's audacious to speculate why a principal is leaving their job, ESPECIALLY if they're leaving mid-year, which is USUALLY done for unexpected reasons (i.e. family/personal crisis) or when you're fed up with the system.

Principals are like mayors of their schools. You can't be surprised when people wonder why a principal is leaving midyear.

No, yeah, it's totally normal to speculate. Think about it. Talk about it at dinner. Ask your friend with a kid in your son's class who you've known since 3rd grade. But it's straight up callous and unhinged to post about it to a message baord expecting someone to reveal the drama.

You say that as if insider info isn't posted here all the time. People are posting here before people spill the beans here.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Anonymous]

I'm hoping alot of the "equity over academics" principals pack it up and head out of town.

[Anonymous]

Wonder what that says about the principals still around…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she leaving mid year?

Might be when she is eligible for retirement. Our retirement dates don't necessarily match the end of the school year.

I thought eligibility was at 30 years? She has 32

She probably got a job offer in another state and can double dip her retirement

[Anonymous]

As a PP noted - each employee has a different retirement eligibility date. MCPS has a fiscal year beginning in July. However the state retirement system has a fiscal year beginning in January. Employees of the state system may retire on the first of any month after eligibility. In the county, we are asked for at least a 60 day notice so that the paperwork etc. can be completed.

[Anonymous]

Who is left from McKnight's group of drinking buddies?

Tick, tock Dana and Stephanie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is left from McKnight's group of drinking buddies?

Tick, tock Dana and Stephanie.

No surprise there. Now hopefully they don't bring back any of the outgoing principals old buddies .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is left from McKnight's group of drinking buddies?

Tick, tock Dana and Stephanie.

More like Biedleman’s drinking buddies. They are falling one by one. What’s done in the dark always comes to light.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is left from McKnight's group of drinking buddies?

Tick, tock Dana and Stephanie.

More like Biedleman’s drinking buddies. They are falling one by one. What’s done in the dark always comes to light.

Karma