Trump just lost Michigan

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump is correct. Assembling parts manufactured elsewhere isn't highly skilled well-paying union jobs. You are just next on the chopping block when offshoring happens.


And what is he proposing to do that will help them? Blaming it on immigrants?
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Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.


If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.
Anonymous
Probably won’t make a difference. The US sending 100 troops to Israel will cause Harris to lose votes in Dearborn. It should cancel out any backlash from this statement.
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I am a Dem who would never vote R, but I posts like this always make me chuckle.

Why assume that most trump voters track news like this?

Why assume that they care about Detroit or Michigan?

Why assume that Michiganders think Detroit is fabulous as is?

Etc.

ICYMI: His voters and those who dislike Kamala are likely drawn to Trump precisely for his candid remarks—even if they sound nutty or arrogant or patently false.

I’m more troubled by the polling on black voters and men in general who support trump. I’m praying that women continue to out-vote men. The obvious misogyny and anti-Kamala vibe for whatever reason are problematic.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump is correct. Assembling parts manufactured elsewhere isn't highly skilled well-paying union jobs. You are just next on the chopping block when offshoring happens.


I doubt you've ever even been near an assembly plant to say that. And at least Biden/Harris admin has been heavily promoting build American, buy American, onshoring, building US plants and so on.

Trump just comes up with harebrained schemes like "200% tarriffs" and pretends China will be the one paying for it.

This is the latest insult - "black jobs" now "child jobs." The man was handed a half-billion dollar real estate empire and was basically a pretend-businessman his whole life. Most of the pretend-business ventures of his failed, Trump casinos, Trump steaks, Trump university, and so on. He could have just invested what his daddy gave him into an index fund and would be much richer than he is today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Probably won’t make a difference. The US sending 100 troops to Israel will cause Harris to lose votes in Dearborn. It should cancel out any backlash from this statement.


There are there to man defensive weapons. But ok.

I guess they can vote for Trump and be the first ones deported.
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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how his base feels about his running mate.

SE Michigan, where the Big 3 (now 2?) are, usually carries the state. They will be upset but they were already reliably blue. Will have to see how much the rest of the state will sympathize with the auto workers. Western MI has some red stalwarts.


Will also depend on where Dearborn lands. Plenty are upset with the Dems when I was home this summer.



The democrats/moderates/lefties who say “I don’t like how Biden is doing on ____ so I want to help Trump get elected to send a message” are a special kind of stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Probably won’t make a difference. The US sending 100 troops to Israel will cause Harris to lose votes in Dearborn. It should cancel out any backlash from this statement.

I don’t understand this move from Biden at all. His mind is living in the 70’s.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Probably won’t make a difference. The US sending 100 troops to Israel will cause Harris to lose votes in Dearborn. It should cancel out any backlash from this statement.


There are there to man defensive weapons. But ok.

I guess they can vote for Trump and be the first ones deported.

Just stop. If they were born in the USA, they are not getting deported. Also, defensive manning or offensive planning using American troops is a dumb move. And it will not bode well, especially if one of them ends up dead. Just drawing the USA slowly back into another FUBAR war in the Middle East.
Anonymous
Arabs/Muslims along with 3rd parties will hand the state to Trump.
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He's been in complete dementia freefall for 4 days. I wonder whether it's natural or whether he had a mini stroke to accelerate his previously slowly-progressing dementia.

Anyway. Medically, there's clearly a problem and everyone's seeing it now.


I truly think his turnout is going to be surprisingly low. Maybe people will go who just post shooting would have voted for him, but now just can’t. They’ll vote R for other categories and leave the top blank.
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Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.


If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.


I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

He's been in complete dementia freefall for 4 days. I wonder whether it's natural or whether he had a mini stroke to accelerate his previously slowly-progressing dementia.

Anyway. Medically, there's clearly a problem and everyone's seeing it now.


I think he saw the internals as to just how bad he is going to lose and is falling off a narcissist cliff.

Agree. He’s been campaigning in states like CA and NY.


This, too. I think we see the desperation here. The trolling was not so crazy in 2016 or 2020.

I’m calling it and have for a month - he’s going to get demolished and he knows it, and knows the deeper thing is the loss will be so evident that protests and bullshit post vote won’t work. He’s in actual trouble for the first time in his life, facing consequences that can actually touch him, at 78 and faltering in his health. He’s doomed. And we all know it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.


If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.


I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.


Trump has no chance so I guess say your prayers sweetie.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.


If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.


I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.


Can you describer her economic policies and how they have been "disastrous"?
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