William & Mary admission rates

[Anonymous]

Does that apply to OOS? Kid has a slightly lower SAT but higher GPA (3.9 UW). Probably TO.

[Anonymous]

OOS DD (MCPS, non-W school), full IB +4 APs, 3.98/4.86, 1430 SAT, 33 ACT, several solid arts/community ECs (deep and dedicated but no stellar achievements) and some school clubs, small leadership roles in a few.

College Vine has W&M as a Target, with odds of 65%. Sound reasonable? Looking at museum studies/art history, with a chemistry minor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about the same question today. At our very competitive FCPS, getting into William and Mary is very, very difficult. There is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate. I am not sure why the acceptance rate appears so high, because coming from FCPS, I imagine it’s in the 20% range or lower. And only the top kids are applying.

SCHEV will tell you the answer to your question:

For the 2023-2024 admissions year:

FCPS (Fairfax) had a 41.6% acceptance rate. Compare that to the other FCPS1 (Fauquier), which was only a 25% acceptance rate and there goes the theory that Fairfax students have it worse.

This doesn't even begin to tell the whole story, though. The question is: what are the stats of the FCPS kids who get vs Fauquier kids? I don't know the answer or I'd post it. But if the avg applicants from FCPS are MUCH higher, than it can still be harder to get in from FCPS.

Okay, but the claim was that in FCPS there is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate and that it was 20% or lower, which the PP showed was factually incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOS DD (MCPS, non-W school), full IB +4 APs, 3.98/4.86, 1430 SAT, 33 ACT, several solid arts/community ECs (deep and dedicated but no stellar achievements) and some school clubs, small leadership roles in a few.

College Vine has W&M as a Target, with odds of 65%. Sound reasonable? Looking at museum studies/art history, with a chemistry minor.

I would think your chances are very good! The Muscarelle Museum of Art on campus is finishing up a huge addition which will greatly enhance the art department.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOS DD (MCPS, non-W school), full IB +4 APs, 3.98/4.86, 1430 SAT, 33 ACT, several solid arts/community ECs (deep and dedicated but no stellar achievements) and some school clubs, small leadership roles in a few.

College Vine has W&M as a Target, with odds of 65%. Sound reasonable? Looking at museum studies/art history, with a chemistry minor.

Sounds right to me. PP above. DD’s stats are lower and CollegeVine gives her a 56% chance - higher if ED, which we can’t afford to do. My research suggests your kid will get in - most likely if female and most certainly if male.

[Anonymous]

Oh sorry above, I see your kid is female. Still I think her chances are solid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about the same question today. At our very competitive FCPS, getting into William and Mary is very, very difficult. There is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate. I am not sure why the acceptance rate appears so high, because coming from FCPS, I imagine it’s in the 20% range or lower. And only the top kids are applying.

It's more self selective. People who do not have the academic qualifications to get into W&M tend not to apply unlike other a lot of other schools

This. You can tell the cuts offs for WM (and UVA) in Naviance, and it is pretty clear what it takes to be admitted. (VT is a bit different because it doesn’t break out engineering and CS, which are very high stat, from other schools that are not. UVA has a much smaller engineering school). And WM has an optional extra essay that admissions clearly said in my kid’s info session is not optional. And they push demonstrated interest and consider it strongly, which means interviewing, visiting before being admitted, etc. You can a pretty clear idea of whether you will get in from NOVA just by looking at Naviance and checking demonstrated interest boxes. My kid had white/Asian female friends sitting in the 4.1-4.2 range who didn’t even bother to apply to WM because they knew they weren’t getting in and/or they didn’t want it enough to jump through the extra essay, interview, campus visit hoops.

The clear cut off, plus the fact it is the smallest T-whatever public university in the US and attracts a certain type of kid makes its applicant pool pretty self selecting.

Oddly, the same not really there on stats/ not applying to WM kids will often apply to UVA. Not sure why. I’m sure not having the extra essay helps. As does the fact UVA is more of a traditional flagship and WM attracts kids who want more undergrad focus, small classes, etc. and less big sports / highly visible Greek life.

But, statistically, it's more difficult to get into UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh sorry above, I see your kid is female. Still I think her chances are solid.

Yeah, Art History definitely skews female!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in VA, just trying to understand how competitive it is to get in. I'm seeing in-state/out-of-state admission rates for W&M as 39%/28%, which doesn't seem terrible. But the reputation in this forum is that it's a super tough admission. Is that because there's so much competition among the NOVA kids?

Interested in paying $70k for an OOS public?
https://www.wm.edu/admission/tuition/

OP here. I'm aware of the cost. We're not eligible for need-based aid anywhere, so as far as I'm concerned, $70k at W&M beats $90k elsewhere. Also, it's a longshot, but I'm hoping my kid might be a contender for one of the 1693 scholarships.

1693 scholarships are very rare - only 8 a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of 1693 scholarships, advantage in going ED1 or ED2, sign-up for an interview with admissions. Boys have about an 8% advantage in admissions.

Competitive admission, will most likely need over 1450 on SAT and 4.3+ on GPA.

This is interesting. Their website says the interview is with a current student and that it has no bearing on whether or not a kid is admitted. (My kid is signed up for the "shadow" day and not the interview, but maybe they should sign up for both?)

W&M tracks demonstrated interest, so yes, sign up for both

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in VA, just trying to understand how competitive it is to get in. I'm seeing in-state/out-of-state admission rates for W&M as 39%/28%, which doesn't seem terrible. But the reputation in this forum is that it's a super tough admission. Is that because there's so much competition among the NOVA kids?

Interested in paying $70k for an OOS public?
https://www.wm.edu/admission/tuition/

10k cheaper oos than UVA. Neither is worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about the same question today. At our very competitive FCPS, getting into William and Mary is very, very difficult. There is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate. I am not sure why the acceptance rate appears so high, because coming from FCPS, I imagine it’s in the 20% range or lower. And only the top kids are applying.

SCHEV will tell you the answer to your question:

For the 2023-2024 admissions year:

FCPS (Fairfax) had a 41.6% acceptance rate. Compare that to the other FCPS1 (Fauquier), which was only a 25% acceptance rate and there goes the theory that Fairfax students have it worse.

The FCPS students have much higher stats across the board than Fauquier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in VA, just trying to understand how competitive it is to get in. I'm seeing in-state/out-of-state admission rates for W&M as 39%/28%, which doesn't seem terrible. But the reputation in this forum is that it's a super tough admission. Is that because there's so much competition among the NOVA kids?

Interested in paying $70k for an OOS public?
https://www.wm.edu/admission/tuition/

10k cheaper oos than UVA. Neither is worth it.

W&M OOS is $71,080; UVA College of Arts and Sciences is $74k. insignificant difference st that point. USC is almost $95k. My slac is $92k. If my kid can't get in to public, then OOS public is the next logical step, mo matter what you think.

[Anonymous]

W&M is still a very regional college. Your OOS admission chances skyrocket once you leave the mid atlantic states.

Number of students:
Virginia 930
New Jersey 67
Pennsylvania 56
New York 53
Massachusetts 43

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking about the same question today. At our very competitive FCPS, getting into William and Mary is very, very difficult. There is nowhere near a 40% acceptance rate. I am not sure why the acceptance rate appears so high, because coming from FCPS, I imagine it’s in the 20% range or lower. And only the top kids are applying.

SCHEV will tell you the answer to your question:

For the 2023-2024 admissions year:

FCPS (Fairfax) had a 41.6% acceptance rate. Compare that to the other FCPS1 (Fauquier), which was only a 25% acceptance rate and there goes the theory that Fairfax students have it worse.

The FCPS students have much higher stats across the board than Fauquier.

48 fauquier students applied. 2,010 fairfax students applied. Do you have any proof that the 2010th fairfax student has much higher stats than the 48th fauquier student? Or for that matter the 1,005th fairfax student is that much stronger than the 24th fauquier student? Or are you just speaking out your butt?