Lunch meats: why are they bad?

[Anonymous]

Cured meats are linked to cancer due to the nitrates.

[Anonymous]

Weird. Boomers and Gen X grew up on this stuff and you guys complain they are living too long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Boomers and Gen X grew up on this stuff and you guys complain they are living too long.

People consume more now though.

[Anonymous]

As always, the point is moderation. Vary your diet, don't overdo anything (but particularly not processed foods).

The idea that turkey breast is "healthy" comes from the low-fat obsession of years past, which only made people fatter. Back when people cut out fattier meats and started buying low-fat products that were laden with sugar and salt and other preservatives, to make them shelf-stable/edible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there’s any difference between turkey breast finely sliced at a deli and turkey breast any other way. It’s not like the slicing suddenly makes it bad for you. And sodium isn’t a problem if you generally don’t eat a lot of processed foods. (My sister and daughter both have to add extra sodium to their diets because they eat so little junk food.).

I also personally think that the hysteria over cured meats might be overblown. Italians eat a lot of cured meats and don’t seem to have significantly higher cancer rates (once you adjust for increased smoking rates). Americans just overdue everything and then have to make a big deal about cutting it out entirely when in reality you could eat a moderate quantity once a week or so and probably be fine.

Processed meat consumption is linked to pancreatic cancer. Despite its overall healthy lifestyle, Italy is top 10 in the world for pancreatic cancer rates:

https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/pancreatic-cancer-statistics/

Maybe it is because they consume so much cured meat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Boomers and Gen X grew up on this stuff and you guys complain they are living too long.

People consume more now though.

People consume more cured meat now than boomers and previous generations? Reliable data on that please? Curing meat is an ancient practice. Humans have consumed a lot of cured meat over thousands of years.

[Anonymous]

It’s hard to find anything good. Here’s the bad:
Sodium
Processed meat
No nutritional value

How about trying a plant based option like Tofurky slices? A bit healthier.or make your own from seitan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Boomers and Gen X grew up on this stuff and you guys complain they are living too long.

People consume more now though.

People consume more cured meat now than boomers and previous generations? Reliable data on that please? Curing meat is an ancient practice. Humans have consumed a lot of cured meat over thousands of years.

It is undoubtedly true that people are consuming more ultra processed foods than ever before.

https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2021/october/ultra-processed-foods.html

You're focusing only on cured meats, which would fall in UPFs, but overall Americans are packing away more highly processed junk foods than ever before.

I'm sure people have consumed cured meats all throughout history. But that was also offset by large consumption of freshly made breads, fruits, vegetables, and other raw ingredients they were minimally manipulated simply because modern food science and manufacturing as we currently know it didn't exist.

And look at the link above. Despite their healthy Mediterranean based diet, why are Italians top 10 for pancreatic cancer? Too much consumption of cured meats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A store roasted breast is just turkey.

Most times they brine so last longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Boomers and Gen X grew up on this stuff and you guys complain they are living too long.

People consume more now though.

People consume more cured meat now than boomers and previous generations? Reliable data on that please? Curing meat is an ancient practice. Humans have consumed a lot of cured meat over thousands of years.

It is undoubtedly true that people are consuming more ultra processed foods than ever before.

https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2021/october/ultra-processed-foods.html

You're focusing only on cured meats, which would fall in UPFs, but overall Americans are packing away more highly processed junk foods than ever before.

I'm sure people have consumed cured meats all throughout history. But that was also offset by large consumption of freshly made breads, fruits, vegetables, and other raw ingredients they were minimally manipulated simply because modern food science and manufacturing as we currently know it didn't exist.

And look at the link above. Despite their healthy Mediterranean based diet, why are Italians top 10 for pancreatic cancer? Too much consumption of cured meats?

So basically no cite to support your suggestion that people eat more cured meat today than a generation ago. Just lumping it in with bad diet generally. Ok.

[Anonymous]

Is turkey better than ham or salami?

[Anonymous]

Maybe try switching to bean based spreads - hummus, Muhammara, cannellini with rosemary or thyme - then pile on veggies grilled or raw.
Healthier all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is turkey better than ham or salami?

less fat more protein per ounce?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe try switching to bean based spreads - hummus, Muhammara, cannellini with rosemary or thyme - then pile on veggies grilled or raw.
Healthier all around.

Not enough protein

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's highly processed. It contains preservatives no matter what brands you probably buy....there is a preservative. It's also huge amounts of sodium. Nearly ALL processed deli meats are a no go if you care about your health at all. Data piles up by the day showing how consumption of ultra processed foods is linked to all sorts of disease. Consumption of processed meats is one of the worst offenders, because it has been correlated with increased risk for pancreatic cancer, which is one of the worst cancers you can possibly get.

Just say no to UPFs. Try to avoid foods that come in a package as much as you can.

Does that apply to milk? Like Fairlife ultraprocessed milk that has less sugar and more protein?