Copa America Opening Ceremony - Christian Blessing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barbarians believe in gods. Evolve

says the middle aged man who worships 9 year olds playing soccer and bows down to the suburban youth club alter

[Anonymous]

It’s only a problem for some that it was a Christian prayer. If it was another religion the same folks would have zero issue. It would be called cultural enrichment or inclusion. At the very least they wouldn’t even have the spine to comment on it on an anonymous forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s only a problem for some that it was a Christian prayer. If it was another religion the same folks would have zero issue. It would be called cultural enrichment or inclusion. At the very least they wouldn’t even have the spine to comment on it on an anonymous forum.

They also don’t complain when they shove down peoples’ throats all that rainbow and alphabet mafia lobby derangement.

Funny, innit?

[Anonymous]

The First Amendment is a wonderful thing.
Let's try to keep it.

[Anonymous]

I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

[Anonymous]

Just because someone said a prayer doesn’t mean the religion would start discriminating. Get a grip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess the non-Christian players don't find it awesome.

People in America don’t realize the rest of the world works very differently.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. I’m Jewish and grew up in South America hearing from classmates that I killed Christ. People in America don’t realize there are religious minorities in all parts of the world that often feel marginalized (so, actually not as different as you think).

It buying. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because someone said a prayer doesn’t mean the religion would start discriminating. Get a grip

What if the “higher-up” who made the call to include this prayer, starts inviting people in the organization to join hin (I am assuming in this case it is a “him”) to Bible study or worship time, and the ones who do not attend, do not get promotions. Yes, it may just be a prayer, but this never being done, plus all of the money scandals involving Fifa, on their own, and then also the church, just why mix the two?

[Anonymous]

Messi literally has a LARGE tattoo of Jesus on his shoulder. Many of the other Argentine have numerous tattoos of Christian relics. Argentina is over 70% Christian.

The US is over 65% Christian.

Those offended or take issue with a prayer that did nothing to discriminate against anyone need to check themselves and just accept that is the majority religion in many countries of the world. We just had a World Cup in the Middle East for goodness sake where you cannot be homosexual or support LGBTQ in any manner whatsoever ever.

You people complain yet our country rightfully celebrates homosexuality going as far as wearing LGBTQ symbolism on its own uniforms. Homosexuality represents 7% of our great country but it seems many are offended about a prayer that represents the majority.

FYI, the beef with the Christian religion is that it does not accept homosexuality. Unless you have been under a rock or believe what media tells you, Christians are more accepting of homosexuality more so than any time in history. Even the Pope of all people has come out and said that LGBTQ should and will be accepted.

“This has shocked many, as the Pope has often talked publicly of being respectful towards gay people. He recently created consternation among Catholic traditionalists by saying priests should be able to bless same-sex couples in some circumstances and has frequently talked of gay people being welcome in the Church.”

[Anonymous]

Moderator, time to end this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moderator, time to end this

Why? Other than the poster afraid of non religious rainbow colors everyone has been fairly respectful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

🤔 punished for saying lives matter?

So it's only a belief for some? (In the Christian country)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

Simply google Jaelene Hinkle Daniels. Let me know what you find. She is the minority though as many of the USWNT are in fact Christian and co-exist with LGBTQ players and who love and support each other. Tobin Heath and Christen Press are both devoute Christians despite both being LGBTQ.

On the other hand, Rapinoe was a outspoken proponent of Religion and her political views BUT was never disciplined.

The real truth is here you can't have it both ways. You are either are tolerant and inclusive of most beliefs, no matter the background, or you shouldn't be a part of the US Soccer team. The only exception is are the beliefs that are well defined hateful such as Nazism or Satanism. No room for hate whether Christian, Muslim, or LGBTQ+. It's when you cross a line and turn your US representation to a tool of hate just like Jaelene Hinkle or Megan Rapinoe. Both are the same but different. Refusing to wear colors of LGBTQ+ is no different than kneeling during the National Anthem and showing your hate for our Policemen. Neither need to be part of the game. Don't let someone who's opinion is in the small minority of a group let you paint a broad brush. If you do, you are only part of the other side of the problem. This what media does to all of us now; polarize and pit us against each and all too often we are too blind to see.

As for prayer, whether Christian, Islamic, or whatever, if that prayer is positive and inclusive in nature whether you are a believer or not, their is no reason anyone should find it offensive. No different if an Athiest spoke and put his blessing on the tournament in the name of of the natural universe. All good!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

🤔 punished for saying lives matter?

So it's only a belief for some? (In the Christian country)

I don't know - if someone posted "all lives matter" would they get in trouble?