Why are Episcopal schools so much more expensive than Catholic?

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Anonymous wrote:Most Catholic schools get funding from the Catholic Church. Episcopal Schools are independent from the Episcopal Church financially. It really is that simple.

Depends on the school. The Diocese of Virginia runs 5 schools (conveniently named as a group “The Church Schools”). The individual church schools are somewhat run independently but at the same time are still under one umbrella. SSSAS, St. Catherine’s, St. Christopher’s, Christchurch, St. Margaret’s, and Stuart Hall.

But none of them are cheap.

They don’t get funding directly from parish (church) donors.

Catholic Schools, even Catholic colleges do.

That’s a huge difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Yeah, but at least no pervy priests and ingrained misogyny and hypocrisy.

So Episcopal theology is to serve the rich and screw the poor? At least Catholic school try to educate everyone regardless of income

I'd add regardless of income and ability. Our Catholic school serves special needs kids and the Episcopal schools don't even accept them.

I am not aware of a specific Episcopal program for SN students. Catholic schools do have a few high schools that offer such a program but not all.

That is something to ask about when you tour if that is something your child needs or will need.

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Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

That’s because they use the schools as a religious recruitment avenue. Episcopal schools don’t cancel math classes for Mass. Catholic schools do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

That’s because they use the schools as a religious recruitment avenue. Episcopal schools don’t cancel math classes for Mass. Catholic schools do.

Can you name a Catholic school that cancels math class for Mass?

Obviously Episcopal schools aren't going to have Mass. They have chapel instead. I assume that, like Catholic schools, there is time built into the schedule so that classes aren't cancelled. But I don't have a kid at one. I did attend a Quaker school that had meeting for worship four times as often as most Catholic high schools have mandatory mass.

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Anonymous wrote:Some (not all) of the Catholic Schools have larger class sizes.
My child attends a Catholic High School and class size is the same if not larger than our local public school.

Name the school. I have never heard of class sizes in Catholic high schools being larger than public schools (sometimes up to 40 or more in a class). My daughter's school has an average of 15-17 in a class. My son had slightly larger (20-24).

I have a child at SJC and a child in a DCPS HS.
My children's experience is that the SJC classes (not all - but most) were larger than the DCPS classes.

Different people have different experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

That’s because they use the schools as a religious recruitment avenue. Episcopal schools don’t cancel math classes for Mass. Catholic schools do.

Of course, the Episcopals don’t; they don’t have Mass.

You’ll have to name the schools that cancel math for Mass because no one else has heard of this.

Such ignorance.

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Episcopal schools have a different history because many early American elites were members of the Church of England which the Episcopal Church was offshoot of.

Many elite boarding schools like St. Paul's and Groton are associated with the Episcopal Church because Episcopal Church became very chic by the 19th century.

Catholics were discriminated during America's early years. Also the pattern of migration meant there was more economic diversity among Catholic immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Catholic schools get funding from the Catholic Church. Episcopal Schools are independent from the Episcopal Church financially. It really is that simple.

Depends on the school. The Diocese of Virginia runs 5 schools (conveniently named as a group “The Church Schools”). The individual church schools are somewhat run independently but at the same time are still under one umbrella. SSSAS, St. Catherine’s, St. Christopher’s, Christchurch, St. Margaret’s, and Stuart Hall.

But none of them are cheap.

They don’t get funding directly from parish (church) donors.

Catholic Schools, even Catholic colleges do.

That’s a huge difference.

Not in the same way, no. Catholic parish schools are focused on the education of the children of parishioners (which is why they have preference in admissions). I am episcopal, when I give to the church it does make its way down to the church schools but not as direct if I were catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:Some (not all) of the Catholic Schools have larger class sizes.
My child attends a Catholic High School and class size is the same if not larger than our local public school.

Name the school. I have never heard of class sizes in Catholic high schools being larger than public schools (sometimes up to 40 or more in a class). My daughter's school has an average of 15-17 in a class. My son had slightly larger (20-24).

I have a child at SJC and a child in a DCPS HS.
My children's experience is that the SJC classes (not all - but most) were larger than the DCPS classes.

Different people have different experiences.

Oh well that explains it. SJC is not one of the stronger Catholic schools, and after reading this, I am so grateful we chose not to send our kids there. There are a few of those, but most Catholic high schools have smaller class sizes than public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

That’s because they use the schools as a religious recruitment avenue. Episcopal schools don’t cancel math classes for Mass. Catholic schools do.

Can you name a Catholic school that cancels math class for Mass?

Obviously Episcopal schools aren't going to have Mass. They have chapel instead. I assume that, like Catholic schools, there is time built into the schedule so that classes aren't cancelled. But I don't have a kid at one. I did attend a Quaker school that had meeting for worship four times as often as most Catholic high schools have mandatory mass.

Yes, I can, but I’m not interested in naming names. I know some of the students in several of them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quality and less subsidization.

And with Episcopal schools you get their screwed up theology but hey, take the good with the bad.

Episcopal theology? Thou shalt dress up and have music and donuts at church?

Right! Welcome everyone, be kind, help others.. totally screwed up

In the modern day, the Episcopal church falls on the “Christian left” portion of the spectrum, unlike most of the very vocal Christian elements in US politics. Scarily enough, especially with the current Pope, the Catholic Church is kind of in the center (except for Opus Dei). I’m sticking with the side of accepting all people and believing in science and want my kids educated in that way.

Catholics believe in science.

Episcopal high schools in the area exclude kids with disabilities. They definitely don’t accept anywhere close to all people.

As others have said, most Episcopal schools are private schools that may have once been affiliated with the church but no longer are. They tend to hold onto chapel, have chaplain on the faculty and offer a few religion classes. But, as a private school, can accept whoever they want.

As for being accepting, I guarantee you that Episcopal schools are way more accepting of kids of other religions than Catholic or Jewish schools. Most Episcopal schools will celebrate holidays of other faiths and offer world religion classes.

Of course that's true that they can accept whoever they want. So can Catholic schools. In this area, Catholic high schools choose to accept a wider variety of students than Episcopal high schools do. They choose to keep their costs down and give better financial aid. They choose to include students with disabilities. They include many students who aren't Catholic.

That’s because they use the schools as a religious recruitment avenue. Episcopal schools don’t cancel math classes for Mass. Catholic schools do.

Of course, the Episcopals don’t; they don’t have Mass.

You’ll have to name the schools that cancel math for Mass because no one else has heard of this.

Such ignorance.

Parish schools.

Episcopal schools do offer regular services during the school day, but they don’t cancel academic core subjects for it. At least the one my kids attend doesn’t.

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Episcopalians are not evangelical, therefore as a religion their purpose is not to recruit you and convert you to their church. We are just "happy you are here". That's it.

I can't speak for other religious schools (Lutherans, Quakers and Baptists come to mind in this area), but as for the Episcopalian church and schools, they're not on a mission make you Episcopalian. I was born and raised Episcopalian and send my own children now to a local Episcopalian school. They have chapel once a week where there are lessons that are pretty broad (about being a good person, making good choices, etc). It is not preaching in a traditional church sense. Parents can attend and I have been to several in the over 10 years my kids have been going to school there.

The church as a whole made it a mission to take endeavors to provide education to children in the community, hence no necessarily tied to a parish.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Catholic schools get funding from the Catholic Church. Episcopal Schools are independent from the Episcopal Church financially. It really is that simple.

Depends on the school. The Diocese of Virginia runs 5 schools (conveniently named as a group “The Church Schools”). The individual church schools are somewhat run independently but at the same time are still under one umbrella. SSSAS, St. Catherine’s, St. Christopher’s, Christchurch, St. Margaret’s, and Stuart Hall.

But none of them are cheap.

They don’t get funding directly from parish (church) donors.

Catholic Schools, even Catholic colleges do.

That’s a huge difference.

Not in the same way, no. Catholic parish schools are focused on the education of the children of parishioners (which is why they have preference in admissions). I am episcopal, when I give to the church it does make its way down to the church schools but not as direct if I were catholic.

“I am Episcopalian” is how you say it since you are part of the church. There are so few Episcopalians left (1.5 million) in this country that the schools would close if they did not admit kids of other faiths. Quick search shows 50-70 million Catholics.

If I could do it over I’d choose Catholic schools in heartbeat over my kids current Episcopal school. My friends whose kids go to Catholic schools are getting just as good an education - for far less money. They engage kids in their mission of service to others - Catholic or not. They have close knit communities that support each other while having a membership with religious leanings ranging from liberal to conservative. The Episcopal church does not have such a wide spectrum of representation I assure you. Those days are gone.

Unfortunately we are too late in the process to switch. My kids say they will choose a Catholic school for their kids after seeing their friends’ experiences at Catholic schools.

Choose the Catholic school.

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Episcopalians don’t tithe or excessively proselytize. That’s probably the greatest strength of the church.