Arlington man threatened Animal Control officer with gun, when confronted about off-leash dog

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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh, I saw a man tonight with a pit mix off leash in Arlington walking by a park full of kids! Wonder if its the same guy.


You should call things like that in


I should but in the past they have asked my name which I am not comfortable doing – being portrayed as the white Karen calling on an African-American man walking his pit mix without a leash. Sorry not going to be that person.


But you would be happy to call the authorities on a white man. Got it. Is that what “white privilege” is?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh, I saw a man tonight with a pit mix off leash in Arlington walking by a park full of kids! Wonder if its the same guy.


You should call things like that in


I should but in the past they have asked my name which I am not comfortable doing – being portrayed as the white Karen calling on an African-American man walking his pit mix without a leash. Sorry not going to be that person.


But you would be happy to call the authorities on a white man. Got it. Is that what “white privilege” is?


Yep. That’s white privilege in action. Having the police called on you by some busybody **** who wouldn’t call the cops on some random black guy doing the exact same thing.

That’s the privilege of being white. Sounds great, doesn’t it ?
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


If you want to take that chance, be my guest. But if someone threatens me with a gun I will proceed as if there is one.


They’re not threatening you with a gun *if they don’t pull out a gun*. Are you seriously this dense ???

If we were having an argument on the sidewalk and I threatened to crash my spaceship into you - are you going to call the cops and tell them I crashed a spaceship into you?

No?

Why not?

Because there’s no spaceship in the first place.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


Having been bit by a dog while simply walking down a popular path and having known people who were killed by lax gun laws in VA Tech, we need both. It's not an either/or issue. There are dangerous people with guns and dangerous people with dogs. This guy just sits in the middle of the Venn Diagram.





Agree, we need both.

We have both. What we need is ENFORCEMENT of existing laws.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.


We moved to Arlington last year and I have been SHOCKED by my how many of my the parents at my kid’s elementary school have admitted to owning guns. Most (though not all!) are quick to say they’re kept safely, locked away, etc. A few weeks ago, one dad noted that he would sometimes have unloaded guns out because he wants his 7 year old kid to be comfortable with them.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.


We moved to Arlington last year and I have been SHOCKED by my how many of my the parents at my kid’s elementary school have admitted to owning guns. Most (though not all!) are quick to say they’re kept safely, locked away, etc. A few weeks ago, one dad noted that he would sometimes have unloaded guns out because he wants his 7 year old kid to be comfortable with them.


Arlington residents also claim that they aren't racist. It's pretty clear they have a loose relationship with the truth.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.


We moved to Arlington last year and I have been SHOCKED by my how many of my the parents at my kid’s elementary school have admitted to owning guns. Most (though not all!) are quick to say they’re kept safely, locked away, etc. A few weeks ago, one dad noted that he would sometimes have unloaded guns out because he wants his 7 year old kid to be comfortable with them.


Remember this: while you might’ve been “shocked” by the number who “admitted” to owning guns - you’d be floored to know how many MORE of them own them and DON’T admit it because they don’t want to subject themselves to the judging of a close-minded loudmouth ignorant harpy. So however many gun owners you think you know - the actual number is likely twice that, possibly even more.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


If you want to take that chance, be my guest. But if someone threatens me with a gun I will proceed as if there is one.


They’re not threatening you with a gun *if they don’t pull out a gun*. Are you seriously this dense ???

If we were having an argument on the sidewalk and I threatened to crash my spaceship into you - are you going to call the cops and tell them I crashed a spaceship into you?

No?

Why not?

Because there’s no spaceship in the first place.


Your analogy is absurd. And you’re calling other people dense?
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.


We moved to Arlington last year and I have been SHOCKED by my how many of my the parents at my kid’s elementary school have admitted to owning guns. Most (though not all!) are quick to say they’re kept safely, locked away, etc. A few weeks ago, one dad noted that he would sometimes have unloaded guns out because he wants his 7 year old kid to be comfortable with them.


Arlington residents also claim that they aren't racist. It's pretty clear they have a loose relationship with the truth.


The only Arlington residents I’ve ever heard regularly claim not to be racists were the white progressive ones in their 30’s who didn’t want ESOL students at their kid’s North Arlington elementary schools.

Weird how that happens, huh?
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


If you want to take that chance, be my guest. But if someone threatens me with a gun I will proceed as if there is one.


They’re not threatening you with a gun *if they don’t pull out a gun*. Are you seriously this dense ???

If we were having an argument on the sidewalk and I threatened to crash my spaceship into you - are you going to call the cops and tell them I crashed a spaceship into you?

No?

Why not?

Because there’s no spaceship in the first place.


Your analogy is absurd. And you’re calling other people dense?


Nope. Just you.

Don’t you feel special now?
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


If you want to take that chance, be my guest. But if someone threatens me with a gun I will proceed as if there is one.


They’re not threatening you with a gun *if they don’t pull out a gun*. Are you seriously this dense ???

If we were having an argument on the sidewalk and I threatened to crash my spaceship into you - are you going to call the cops and tell them I crashed a spaceship into you?

No?

Why not?

Because there’s no spaceship in the first place.


Your analogy is absurd. And you’re calling other people dense?


Nope. Just you.

Don’t you feel special now?


Nope. Try harder.
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jsteele wrote:A guy pulls a gun and you think we need dog owner reform instead of gun control?


We need both. And I’d bet my life savings that guys gun wasn’t acquired legally.


What gun?


The one the perpetrator said he had.


There. Was. No. Gun.

If there had been, it would’ve been seen.


So if someone threatens you with a gun but doesn’t pull it, you’re supposed to assume that he doesn’t have one? That seems like a really bad idea.


What are you going to do, tough guy? Pull out your gun and shoot him?


I don’t own a gun. I’m not sure what your point is. If someone says they have a gun, the prudent thing to do is believe them.


Why believe a criminal? What makes them credible?

If someone HAS a gun, they don’t need to imply anything- they just pull it out.

The only people making threats to pull out a gun are the people who don’t have one and are bluffing.


Especially in Arlington. I am not sure there is even a 2A supporter in the county, let alone private ownership of guns.


Nice try, but Arlington has a gun store that the feds have identified as one of the leading suppliers of guns used in crimes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/02/15/shops-selling-most-crime-guns-revealed-atf/72581120007/


That doesn't mean the owner is selling to Arlington residents. You do know that stores can sell to customers from outside the county right? I mean, that's a thing.


We moved to Arlington last year and I have been SHOCKED by my how many of my the parents at my kid’s elementary school have admitted to owning guns. Most (though not all!) are quick to say they’re kept safely, locked away, etc. A few weeks ago, one dad noted that he would sometimes have unloaded guns out because he wants his 7 year old kid to be comfortable with them.


Remember this: while you might’ve been “shocked” by the number who “admitted” to owning guns - you’d be floored to know how many MORE of them own them and DON’T admit it because they don’t want to subject themselves to the judging of a close-minded loudmouth ignorant harpy. So however many gun owners you think you know - the actual number is likely twice that, possibly even more.


Well yes, that’s why I’m shocked, I’m sure numbers are way higher. I basically assume there is a gun inside the house unless I’ve explicitly had a conversation with the parent in which he/she has credibly affirmed no guns.
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