Another suicide UMD

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

+1. This poor kid and their poor family. May you vultures never know.

Honest question. Do you not see any value in knowing about this loss so that parents can discuss it with their children? The students are already talking about it. It's well documented that suicide within a community can increase the risk of other suicides, so these events are something a parent, especially a parent of a student who is already struggling with mental health, should be aware of.

Schools notify actual parents of these incidents.

I'm a UMD parent and I was not notified of this event. I heard from my student.

You SHOULD not be notified of this event as a UMD student parent.

Why not? How do you know if this news would affect a UMD student? Someone with issues may not just tell their parents (or anyone). This could save additional lives. Not informing parents doesn't make the issues go away

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

+1. This poor kid and their poor family. May you vultures never know.

Honest question. Do you not see any value in knowing about this loss so that parents can discuss it with their children? The students are already talking about it. It's well documented that suicide within a community can increase the risk of other suicides, so these events are something a parent, especially a parent of a student who is already struggling with mental health, should be aware of.

Schools notify actual parents of these incidents.

I'm a UMD parent and I was not notified of this event. I heard from my student.

It was mentioned in the parent facebook group. UMD is a large school. I don't know that they need to inform everyone.

If they care, they would inform all parents. If my kid had mental health issues, I would most definately want to know if there was a suicide on campus. That way I could check in with them (more than normal) and make sure I'm aware if it was a friend, an acquaintance or something like that.
Parents deserve to be informed.

Not to be grime or anything but if it IS your child you WILL be notified. This is a private issue for the family - no information except there is no threat to the public needs to be announced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

+1. This poor kid and their poor family. May you vultures never know.

Honest question. Do you not see any value in knowing about this loss so that parents can discuss it with their children? The students are already talking about it. It's well documented that suicide within a community can increase the risk of other suicides, so these events are something a parent, especially a parent of a student who is already struggling with mental health, should be aware of.

Schools notify actual parents of these incidents.

I'm a UMD parent and I was not notified of this event. I heard from my student.

You SHOULD not be notified of this event as a UMD student parent.

Why not? How do you know if this news would affect a UMD student? Someone with issues may not just tell their parents (or anyone). This could save additional lives. Not informing parents doesn't make the issues go away

The students are adults. The information needed by UMD students, staff and faculty has been provided. It's a private matter.

[Anonymous]

Why do some people think this is not okay to discuss? Suicides are sometimes socially contagious. Google it if you don’t believe me. Parents with kids who might have mental health issues need to be aware when these things happen and check in with their own kids. And OP I am so sorry your kid had to witness one of these incidents. I hope she is ok and has gotten help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people think this is not okay to discuss? Suicides are sometimes socially contagious. Google it if you don’t believe me. Parents with kids who might have mental health issues need to be aware when these things happen and check in with their own kids. And OP I am so sorry your kid had to witness one of these incidents. I hope she is ok and has gotten help.

You can talk to your kids and check in with them. Respect the student and their families privacy.

[Anonymous]

It’s weird that some posters are trying to shut everybody down. This is the exact opposite way to handle mental health issues. These are members of a very close community that benefits from acknowledging and sharing grief and sadness of losing one of their own, especially in this way. Obviously private details can be respected while still allowing for discussion and especially the sharing of coping resources to help all those struggling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

Nobody has discussed the specific incident or any details. That would be very inappropriate. They are discussing the fact that it happened and how others might need support to prevent more tragedies. That seems positive to me.

Condolences to families who lose a loved one this way and strength to those whose family members are battling depression or anxiety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

+1. This poor kid and their poor family. May you vultures never know.

Honest question. Do you not see any value in knowing about this loss so that parents can discuss it with their children? The students are already talking about it. It's well documented that suicide within a community can increase the risk of other suicides, so these events are something a parent, especially a parent of a student who is already struggling with mental health, should be aware of.

Schools notify actual parents of these incidents.

I'm a UMD parent and I was not notified of this event. I heard from my student.

You SHOULD not be notified of this event as a UMD student parent.

Why not? How do you know if this news would affect a UMD student? Someone with issues may not just tell their parents (or anyone). This could save additional lives. Not informing parents doesn't make the issues go away

In today’s day and age, colleges should inform the community including parents of undergraduate students when these sorts of traumatic events occur.

I recall the brother of one of my sorority sisters murdered both of their parents while she was at school. She had to tell us what happened and bore that burden alone. We tried to support her but didn’t know what to say or do. I remember that decades later and I don’t remember her name because I didn’t know her well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find these threads so inappropriate. Someone lost a child and you all want to gossip about it. Taking on someone else's trauma as your own. Gross. Most blogs block comments on posts reporting suicide.

Op go get some help for you and your kid.

+1. This poor kid and their poor family. May you vultures never know.

Honest question. Do you not see any value in knowing about this loss so that parents can discuss it with their children? The students are already talking about it. It's well documented that suicide within a community can increase the risk of other suicides, so these events are something a parent, especially a parent of a student who is already struggling with mental health, should be aware of.

Schools notify actual parents of these incidents.

I'm a UMD parent and I was not notified of this event. I heard from my student.

You SHOULD not be notified of this event as a UMD student parent.

Why not? How do you know if this news would affect a UMD student? Someone with issues may not just tell their parents (or anyone). This could save additional lives. Not informing parents doesn't make the issues go away

In today’s day and age, colleges should inform the community including parents of undergraduate students when these sorts of traumatic events occur.

I recall the brother of one of my sorority sisters murdered both of their parents while she was at school. She had to tell us what happened and bore that burden alone. We tried to support her but didn’t know what to say or do. I remember that decades later and I don’t remember her name because I didn’t know her well.

Poor thing, that’s horrific.

[Anonymous]

Those not immediately involved already know what they need to know: 1) there was a death on campus 2) there is no threat to the community 3) Details for available counseling services. You can have discussions with your loved one, check-in with them, offer them support and love. You don't need or deserve to know more. This approach provides privacy to the families involved while also notifying the community that there has been a death. If you or your loved one has mental health issues you can provide them with the support THEY need. Beyond that knowing the details of what happened is not necessary to help others in need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s weird that some posters are trying to shut everybody down. This is the exact opposite way to handle mental health issues. These are members of a very close community that benefits from acknowledging and sharing grief and sadness of losing one of their own, especially in this way. Obviously private details can be respected while still allowing for discussion and especially the sharing of coping resources to help all those struggling.

The death can be recognized as a suicide, IF permission is given by the deceased student's parents. It SHOULD NOT be announced as such if the parents haven't given permission.

[Anonymous]

I am so sorry for OP’s daughter to be so close to these suicide deaths of her peers. She should know that she is far from alone.

Suicide is the #2 leading cause of death for college students. Approximately 1,100 suicides on college campuses per year. 25% know of someone who has died as a result of suicide. 40% know of someone who has attempted.

It is well known that mental health for students has declined rapidly since the pandemic. I agree with PPs that we need to encourage healthy conversation around this -without violating privacy of individual grieving families.


Here is an example of the info that U Michigan provides -

“If you or someone you know is in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, there is help for you.  Do not hesitate to call.  Please reach out for help.
• Call 911

• Call 734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]) (UM Psychiatric Emergency Services)
If you are not in immediate danger, but need someone to talk with right now, please call one of the following 24/7, 365 days/year, resources:
Campus 24-Hour Services:

• CAPS After Hours (https://caps.umich.edu/article/caps-after-hours-urgent-support):  734.764.8312 (tel:[phone]) (Press 0)

• UM Psychiatric Emergency Services (http://www.psych.med.umich.edu/patient-care/psychiatric-emergency-service/):  734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]
)
• UM Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness (http://sapac.umich.edu/):  734.936.3333 (tel:[phone])
• (http://www.dpss.umich.edu/)epartment of Public Safety and Security (http://dpss.umich.edu/):  734.763.1131 (tel:[phone])

• Dean of Students: (https://deanofstudents.umich.edu/)  734.764.7420 (tel:[phone])
National 24-Hour Hotlines:
• 988 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/)  
◦ All calls: main number
◦ Military Veterans: press 1
◦ Spanish speaking: press 2
• The Trevor Lifeline (http://www.thetrevorproject.org/): 1.866.488.7386 (tel:[phone]) 

◦ Trevor provides suicide prevention and crisis intervention to LGBTQ young people ages 13-24. TrevorChat is available 7 days a week 2:00 pm
-8:00 pm CST. 
◦
TrevorText is available Fridays 3:00 pm-7:00 pm CST. Text the word “Trevor” to
1.202.304.1200 (tel:[phone])

Veterans Crisis Line (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
:
1.800.273.8255 (tel:[phone])
and Press 1
  ◦
The Veterans Crisis Line connects Veterans in crisis and their families and friends with qualified, caring, Department of Veterans Affairs responders through a confidential toll-free hotline, online chat, or text. Access chat 
HERE (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
.
You may also send a 
text to 838255
•
Crisis Text Line (https://www.crisistextline.org/)
: 
741741”


In contrast, Here is the relevant link for U Maryland .

https://health.maryland.gov/bha/suicideprevention/Pages/home.aspx

Suicide Prevention
The Office of Suicide Prevention does not provide counseling, crisis or emergency care. If you need to talk, contact 988 (https://health.maryland.gov/bha/Pages/988md.aspx). For immediate help, call 911.  

Maryland Department of Health’s Suicide Prevention Office strives to build comprehensive, systemic support to reduce deaths by suicide and suicide attempts throughout the state of Maryland. Through technical assistance, training, and resources, the office develops and sustains integrated, multi-faceted, diverse supports that tar get needs across all jurisdictions and populations.


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In my opinion, the U Maryland suicide prevention services are not communicated in a sufficiently empathetic way that would encourage students experiencing mental health Cristi to feel comfortable to reach out. They even emphasize they don’t provide such services. The suicide prevention info for U Maryland sounds detached and generic. The actual staff involved may be amazing but they need to message suicide prevention way better and get someone with higher EQ writing the relevant student info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sorry for OP’s daughter to be so close to these suicide deaths of her peers. She should know that she is far from alone.

Suicide is the #2 leading cause of death for college students. Approximately 1,100 suicides on college campuses per year. 25% know of someone who has died as a result of suicide. 40% know of someone who has attempted.

It is well known that mental health for students has declined rapidly since the pandemic. I agree with PPs that we need to encourage healthy conversation around this -without violating privacy of individual grieving families.


Here is an example of the info that U Michigan provides -

“If you or someone you know is in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, there is help for you.  Do not hesitate to call.  Please reach out for help.
• Call 911

• Call 734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]) (UM Psychiatric Emergency Services)
If you are not in immediate danger, but need someone to talk with right now, please call one of the following 24/7, 365 days/year, resources:
Campus 24-Hour Services:

• CAPS After Hours (https://caps.umich.edu/article/caps-after-hours-urgent-support):  734.764.8312 (tel:[phone]) (Press 0)

• UM Psychiatric Emergency Services (http://www.psych.med.umich.edu/patient-care/psychiatric-emergency-service/):  734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]
)
• UM Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness (http://sapac.umich.edu/):  734.936.3333 (tel:[phone])
• (http://www.dpss.umich.edu/)epartment of Public Safety and Security (http://dpss.umich.edu/):  734.763.1131 (tel:[phone])

• Dean of Students: (https://deanofstudents.umich.edu/)  734.764.7420 (tel:[phone])
National 24-Hour Hotlines:
• 988 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/)  
◦ All calls: main number
◦ Military Veterans: press 1
◦ Spanish speaking: press 2
• The Trevor Lifeline (http://www.thetrevorproject.org/): 1.866.488.7386 (tel:[phone]) 

◦ Trevor provides suicide prevention and crisis intervention to LGBTQ young people ages 13-24. TrevorChat is available 7 days a week 2:00 pm
-8:00 pm CST. 
◦
TrevorText is available Fridays 3:00 pm-7:00 pm CST. Text the word “Trevor” to
1.202.304.1200 (tel:[phone])

Veterans Crisis Line (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
:
1.800.273.8255 (tel:[phone])
and Press 1
  ◦
The Veterans Crisis Line connects Veterans in crisis and their families and friends with qualified, caring, Department of Veterans Affairs responders through a confidential toll-free hotline, online chat, or text. Access chat 
HERE (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
.
You may also send a 
text to 838255
•
Crisis Text Line (https://www.crisistextline.org/)
: 
741741”


In contrast, Here is the relevant link for U Maryland .

https://health.maryland.gov/bha/suicideprevention/Pages/home.aspx

Suicide Prevention
The Office of Suicide Prevention does not provide counseling, crisis or emergency care. If you need to talk, contact 988 (https://health.maryland.gov/bha/Pages/988md.aspx). For immediate help, call 911.  

Maryland Department of Health’s Suicide Prevention Office strives to build comprehensive, systemic support to reduce deaths by suicide and suicide attempts throughout the state of Maryland. Through technical assistance, training, and resources, the office develops and sustains integrated, multi-faceted, diverse supports that tar get needs across all jurisdictions and populations.


>>>>>>>
In my opinion, the U Maryland suicide prevention services are not communicated in a sufficiently empathetic way that would encourage students experiencing mental health Cristi to feel comfortable to reach out. They even emphasize they don’t provide such services. The suicide prevention info for U Maryland sounds detached and generic. The actual staff involved may be amazing but they need to message suicide prevention way better and get someone with higher EQ writing the relevant student info.

I'm not sure where you are pulling the UMD information from but do know that internally students, staff and faculty are provided more indepth information on how to care for yourself and others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sorry for OP’s daughter to be so close to these suicide deaths of her peers. She should know that she is far from alone.

Suicide is the #2 leading cause of death for college students. Approximately 1,100 suicides on college campuses per year. 25% know of someone who has died as a result of suicide. 40% know of someone who has attempted.

It is well known that mental health for students has declined rapidly since the pandemic. I agree with PPs that we need to encourage healthy conversation around this -without violating privacy of individual grieving families.


Here is an example of the info that U Michigan provides -

“If you or someone you know is in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, there is help for you.  Do not hesitate to call.  Please reach out for help.
• Call 911

• Call 734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]) (UM Psychiatric Emergency Services)
If you are not in immediate danger, but need someone to talk with right now, please call one of the following 24/7, 365 days/year, resources:
Campus 24-Hour Services:

• CAPS After Hours (https://caps.umich.edu/article/caps-after-hours-urgent-support):  734.764.8312 (tel:[phone]) (Press 0)

• UM Psychiatric Emergency Services (http://www.psych.med.umich.edu/patient-care/psychiatric-emergency-service/):  734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]
)
• UM Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness (http://sapac.umich.edu/):  734.936.3333 (tel:[phone])
• (http://www.dpss.umich.edu/)epartment of Public Safety and Security (http://dpss.umich.edu/):  734.763.1131 (tel:[phone])

• Dean of Students: (https://deanofstudents.umich.edu/)  734.764.7420 (tel:[phone])
National 24-Hour Hotlines:
• 988 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/)  
◦ All calls: main number
◦ Military Veterans: press 1
◦ Spanish speaking: press 2
• The Trevor Lifeline (http://www.thetrevorproject.org/): 1.866.488.7386 (tel:[phone]) 

◦ Trevor provides suicide prevention and crisis intervention to LGBTQ young people ages 13-24. TrevorChat is available 7 days a week 2:00 pm
-8:00 pm CST. 
◦
TrevorText is available Fridays 3:00 pm-7:00 pm CST. Text the word “Trevor” to
1.202.304.1200 (tel:[phone])

Veterans Crisis Line (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
:
1.800.273.8255 (tel:[phone])
and Press 1
  ◦
The Veterans Crisis Line connects Veterans in crisis and their families and friends with qualified, caring, Department of Veterans Affairs responders through a confidential toll-free hotline, online chat, or text. Access chat 
HERE (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
.
You may also send a 
text to 838255
•
Crisis Text Line (https://www.crisistextline.org/)
: 
741741”


In contrast, Here is the relevant link for U Maryland .

https://health.maryland.gov/bha/suicideprevention/Pages/home.aspx

Suicide Prevention
The Office of Suicide Prevention does not provide counseling, crisis or emergency care. If you need to talk, contact 988 (https://health.maryland.gov/bha/Pages/988md.aspx). For immediate help, call 911.  

Maryland Department of Health’s Suicide Prevention Office strives to build comprehensive, systemic support to reduce deaths by suicide and suicide attempts throughout the state of Maryland. Through technical assistance, training, and resources, the office develops and sustains integrated, multi-faceted, diverse supports that tar get needs across all jurisdictions and populations.


>>>>>>>
In my opinion, the U Maryland suicide prevention services are not communicated in a sufficiently empathetic way that would encourage students experiencing mental health Cristi to feel comfortable to reach out. They even emphasize they don’t provide such services. The suicide prevention info for U Maryland sounds detached and generic. The actual staff involved may be amazing but they need to message suicide prevention way better and get someone with higher EQ writing the relevant student info.

I'm not sure where you are pulling the UMD information from but do know that internally students, staff and faculty are provided more indepth information on how to care for yourself and others.

In fact pulling from your link - its from the State of Maryland and not UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sorry for OP’s daughter to be so close to these suicide deaths of her peers. She should know that she is far from alone.

Suicide is the #2 leading cause of death for college students. Approximately 1,100 suicides on college campuses per year. 25% know of someone who has died as a result of suicide. 40% know of someone who has attempted.

It is well known that mental health for students has declined rapidly since the pandemic. I agree with PPs that we need to encourage healthy conversation around this -without violating privacy of individual grieving families.


Here is an example of the info that U Michigan provides -

“If you or someone you know is in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, there is help for you.  Do not hesitate to call.  Please reach out for help.
• Call 911

• Call 734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]) (UM Psychiatric Emergency Services)
If you are not in immediate danger, but need someone to talk with right now, please call one of the following 24/7, 365 days/year, resources:
Campus 24-Hour Services:

• CAPS After Hours (https://caps.umich.edu/article/caps-after-hours-urgent-support):  734.764.8312 (tel:[phone]) (Press 0)

• UM Psychiatric Emergency Services (http://www.psych.med.umich.edu/patient-care/psychiatric-emergency-service/):  734.996.4747 (tel:[phone]
)
• UM Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness (http://sapac.umich.edu/):  734.936.3333 (tel:[phone])
• (http://www.dpss.umich.edu/)epartment of Public Safety and Security (http://dpss.umich.edu/):  734.763.1131 (tel:[phone])

• Dean of Students: (https://deanofstudents.umich.edu/)  734.764.7420 (tel:[phone])
National 24-Hour Hotlines:
• 988 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/)  
◦ All calls: main number
◦ Military Veterans: press 1
◦ Spanish speaking: press 2
• The Trevor Lifeline (http://www.thetrevorproject.org/): 1.866.488.7386 (tel:[phone]) 

◦ Trevor provides suicide prevention and crisis intervention to LGBTQ young people ages 13-24. TrevorChat is available 7 days a week 2:00 pm
-8:00 pm CST. 
◦
TrevorText is available Fridays 3:00 pm-7:00 pm CST. Text the word “Trevor” to
1.202.304.1200 (tel:[phone])

Veterans Crisis Line (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
:
1.800.273.8255 (tel:[phone])
and Press 1
  ◦
The Veterans Crisis Line connects Veterans in crisis and their families and friends with qualified, caring, Department of Veterans Affairs responders through a confidential toll-free hotline, online chat, or text. Access chat 
HERE (http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/)
.
You may also send a 
text to 838255
•
Crisis Text Line (https://www.crisistextline.org/)
: 
741741”


In contrast, Here is the relevant link for U Maryland .

https://health.maryland.gov/bha/suicideprevention/Pages/home.aspx

Suicide Prevention
The Office of Suicide Prevention does not provide counseling, crisis or emergency care. If you need to talk, contact 988 (https://health.maryland.gov/bha/Pages/988md.aspx). For immediate help, call 911.  

Maryland Department of Health’s Suicide Prevention Office strives to build comprehensive, systemic support to reduce deaths by suicide and suicide attempts throughout the state of Maryland. Through technical assistance, training, and resources, the office develops and sustains integrated, multi-faceted, diverse supports that tar get needs across all jurisdictions and populations.


>>>>>>>
In my opinion, the U Maryland suicide prevention services are not communicated in a sufficiently empathetic way that would encourage students experiencing mental health Cristi to feel comfortable to reach out. They even emphasize they don’t provide such services. The suicide prevention info for U Maryland sounds detached and generic. The actual staff involved may be amazing but they need to message suicide prevention way better and get someone with higher EQ writing the relevant student info.

I'm not sure where you are pulling the UMD information from but do know that internally students, staff and faculty are provided more indepth information on how to care for yourself and others.

Ok I am very glad to hear that. I posted the wrong link but did read one on the U Maryland web site that I thought was rather detached. However if insiders feel they are receiving adequate support services and info to navigate the student mental health crisis, then I am happy for them.